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Trump homeland security chief says ICE agents could be sent to polling places

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Re: Trump homeland security chief says ICE agents could be sent to polling places

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See perhaps 18 U.S. Code § 592:

> Whoever, being an officer of the Army or Navy, or other person in the civil, military, or naval service of the United States, orders, brings, keeps, or has under his authority or control any troops or armed men at any place where a general or special election is held, unless such force be necessary to repel armed enemies of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both; and be disqualified from holding any office of honor, profit, or trust under the United States.

* https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/592

Per DoJ guidance this also means that FBI agents cannot conduct investigations inside polling places on Election Day and deputy U.S. marshals cannot be stationed at open polls because they are armed while on duty:

* https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-J-PURL-gpo145659/...

Re: Trump homeland security chief says ICE agents could be sent to polling places

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See perhaps 18 U.S. Code § 592: > Whoever, being an officer of the Army or Navy, or other person in the civil, military, or naval service of the United States, orders, brings, keeps, or has under his authority or control any troops or armed men at any place where a general or special election is held, unless such force be necessary to repel armed enemies of the United States, shall be fined under this title or impris…

And who defines "unless such force be necessary to repel armed enemies of the United States"?

Re: Trump homeland security chief says ICE agents could be sent to polling places

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See perhaps 18 U.S. Code § 592: > Whoever, being an officer of the Army or Navy, or other person in the civil, military, or naval service of the United States, orders, brings, keeps, or has under his authority or control any troops or armed men at any place where a general or special election is held, unless such force be necessary to repel armed enemies of the United States, shall be fined under this title or impris…

And who defines "unless such force be necessary to repel armed enemies of the United States"?

There seems to always be an encoded loophole, eh? Though while marking anyone an “enemy” is subjective to interpretation, “armed” not so much. Unless, of course, you bring a sandwich with you to the polls.

https://www.mediaite.com/crime/footlong-and-fancy-free-d-c-j...

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And who defines "unless such force be necessary to repel armed enemies of the United States"?

There seems to always be an encoded loophole, eh? Though while marking anyone an “enemy” is subjective to interpretation, “armed” not so much. Unless, of course, you bring a sandwich with you to the polls. https://www.mediaite.com/crime/footlong-and-fancy-free-d-c-j...

Voters had better show up naked which may counteract the attempts to limit the vote to the christian right.

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More less irrelevant. How many polling places is there, how many ICE agents do they have?

According to the NCSL, ~96k polling places vs. 22k+ ICE agents (number steadily increasing).

How could anyone even hope to affect the results by only interfering in >20% of voting locations? Obviously irrelevant.

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post #7

More less irrelevant. How many polling places is there, how many ICE agents do they have?

According to the NCSL, ~96k polling places vs. 22k+ ICE agents (number steadily increasing). How could anyone even hope to affect the results by only interfering in >20% of voting locations? Obviously irrelevant.

Yes irrelevant, because they never operate in units of 1, they are always in big groups.

Re: Trump homeland security chief says ICE agents could be sent to polling places

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the NCSL, ~96k polling places vs. 22k+ ICE agents (number steadily increasing). How could anyone even hope to affect the results by only interfering in >20% of voting locations? Obviously irrelevant.

Yes irrelevant, because they never operate in units of 1, they are always in big groups.

Ah, and that is an immutable fact of the universe. I forgot, good point.

Luckily it doesn't matter that even interfering at 1% of polling places is very likely enough to sway the US election, right?

Re: Trump homeland security chief says ICE agents could be sent to polling places

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes irrelevant, because they never operate in units of 1, they are always in big groups.

Ah, and that is an immutable fact of the universe. I forgot, good point. Luckily it doesn't matter that even interfering at 1% of polling places is very likely enough to sway the US election, right?

1. Considering how much of a swing is expected it is a statistical error

2. You have to register to vote, so you have already proven that you are a citizen, thus the whole theater with ICE is double irrelevant.

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