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OpenAI's GPT-6 Astra on ARC-AGI-3

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Re: OpenAI's GPT-6 Astra on ARC-AGI-3

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"For a cost comparison, during our controlled testing, human participants were paid $115 per 90-minute session, plus $5 per game completed. Participants attempted approximately nine games per session, roughly $12.78 per attempted game before bonuses.

Most of this fee pays for the participant’s time and willingness to take the test, rather than the energy their brain uses (a closer proxy to compare with AI). If we look at only the brain’s energy, and price it as electricity, the estimate drops to about 0.6 cents per session, or 0.067 cents per game attempted."

Well I dont know about all of you, but I am celebrating meat based humans...

Re: OpenAI's GPT-6 Astra on ARC-AGI-3

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99.9% with the right harness? Ok, we're at AGI then.

Prediction:

We will now see the goalposts moved towards "well, a human costs less / is more efficient" - that will prevail for a few months until they come up with some other test that humans can do easily but is hard for the bots. This cycle will continue for ever and in 25 years, despite having hyper intelligent embodied robots or whatever, we'll still be arguing about if the singularity is here and if we're at AGI for the rest of my life most likely.

Re: OpenAI's GPT-6 Astra on ARC-AGI-3

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99.9% with the right harness? Ok, we're at AGI then. Prediction: We will now see the goalposts moved towards "well, a human costs less / is more efficient" - that will prevail for a few months until they come up with some other test that humans can do easily but is hard for the bots. This cycle will continue for ever and in 25 years, despite having hyper intelligent embodied robots or whatever, we'll still be arguing…

That’s because AGI, like a lot of terms, has no meaning besides what each individual subjectively projects onto it.

Re: OpenAI's GPT-6 Astra on ARC-AGI-3

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99.9% with the right harness? Ok, we're at AGI then. Prediction: We will now see the goalposts moved towards "well, a human costs less / is more efficient" - that will prevail for a few months until they come up with some other test that humans can do easily but is hard for the bots. This cycle will continue for ever and in 25 years, despite having hyper intelligent embodied robots or whatever, we'll still be arguing…

> We will now see the goalposts moved

It's already happening :)

Re: OpenAI's GPT-6 Astra on ARC-AGI-3

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99.9% with the right harness? Ok, we're at AGI then. Prediction: We will now see the goalposts moved towards "well, a human costs less / is more efficient" - that will prevail for a few months until they come up with some other test that humans can do easily but is hard for the bots. This cycle will continue for ever and in 25 years, despite having hyper intelligent embodied robots or whatever, we'll still be arguing…

We were already there with Opus 5 -> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/nvidias-harness-hit-100-arc-a...

Re: OpenAI's GPT-6 Astra on ARC-AGI-3

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99.9% with the right harness? Ok, we're at AGI then. Prediction: We will now see the goalposts moved towards "well, a human costs less / is more efficient" - that will prevail for a few months until they come up with some other test that humans can do easily but is hard for the bots. This cycle will continue for ever and in 25 years, despite having hyper intelligent embodied robots or whatever, we'll still be arguing…

We were already there with Opus 5 -> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/nvidias-harness-hit-100-arc-a...

I rest my case.

Re: OpenAI's GPT-6 Astra on ARC-AGI-3

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"For a cost comparison, during our controlled testing, human participants were paid $115 per 90-minute session, plus $5 per game completed. Participants attempted approximately nine games per session, roughly $12.78 per attempted game before bonuses. Most of this fee pays for the participant’s time and willingness to take the test, rather than the energy their brain uses (a closer proxy to compare with AI). If we loo…

I think raw brain energy is not a fair comparison. Humans are not willing and able to serve requests at identical competence all hours of the day. You have to invest considerable resources to get a person to even do so for part of the day.
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