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Ethical Cold Outreach

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Re: Ethical Cold Outreach

#4
Interestingly, I wish there were the opposite of a do-not-email list for this kind of thing. I think it might actually be somewhat fun to get actually relevant email from companies working on interesting products in an extremely targeted way.

Then companies could just go and grab a lead list from there, with some metadata, and if too many people report it as spam (you could use a private relay on the site, for example, like mailinator) you lose access. Good citizens stay. And charge a nominal fee to enforce the reputation system.

I'm sure this is one of those "congratulations you have reinvented system Z" problems

Re: Ethical Cold Outreach

#5

I sort of agree. But honesty if you're cold emailing me I don't super care if your a real human or not. It's still not cool. Don't do it.

> It's still not cool. Don't do it.

So nobody is allowed to try to contact you about any product or service they genuinely think you might be interested in?

Re: Ethical Cold Outreach

#6

Interestingly, I wish there were the opposite of a do-not-email list for this kind of thing. I think it might actually be somewhat fun to get actually relevant email from companies working on interesting products in an extremely targeted way. Then companies could just go and grab a lead list from there, with some metadata, and if too many people report it as spam (you could use a private relay on the site, for exampl…

You are basically just describing targeted advertising and it's already working like that, just not by email and probably more accurately than people putting themselves into buckets.

Re: Ethical Cold Outreach

#8

I sort of agree. But honesty if you're cold emailing me I don't super care if your a real human or not. It's still not cool. Don't do it.

> It's still not cool. Don't do it. So nobody is allowed to try to contact you about any product or service they genuinely think you might be interested in?

That’s the case in germany. Unless you give your explicit consent of course

Re: Ethical Cold Outreach

#9
> Nobody wants to hear from your AI bot, least of all when it’s pretending to be you, laying it on thick.

The people who are doing this don't care about you though. They're playing a numbers game and if this form of "communication" proves to be more than a flash-in-the-pan, it would be an indication that the return realized exceeds the cost by a meaningful enough margin.

It's the same thing with most of the popular scams today. Many people look at them and wonder, "How did anyone fall for that?", but they still exist because they work on enough of the people to make them viable.

Re: Ethical Cold Outreach

#10
One of my favourite things to do with AI video pitch creator products is to put a paragraph of text into the first_name / company_name form fields on their "request a demo" function, to see how ridiculously fast their AI bot will read it out.
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