Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
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Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
#2Are we sure this isn’t the text for the “consent to process health data” toggle that is on the same screen? I don’t have a Samsung phone handy to check
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#3shouldn't this get them turbo obliterated in europe?
Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
#4You shouldn't trust them with your health data anyway.
Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
#5Something I appreciate about Samsung phones is that having a Samsung account is completely optional. I've never had one. If I accidentally click on one of the dumb AI features I'm not even allowed to use it without an account.
Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
#6Am I reading this wrong? It sounds like, short of self-hosting your health data, this is the best of both worlds. Avoiding zombie data retention and avoiding AI? Where do I sign?
Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
#7> The company plans to grab four categories: your sleep, your medications, your medical records, and your cycle tracking details
So you buy a device but you can't effectively use half of its features because you'd also have to agree to send them your medical records? Ok then if I refuse, will they refund 50% of the device price since now it's not usable any more?
Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
#8Apple has default E2EE on health data, which I respect. But they need to take iMessage backup out of Advanced Data Protection and make it default E2EE. Messages are just as sensitive, iMessage is effectively not E2EE if most users are using it with server-side encrypted backups to iCloud. Apple of all companies should be able to make a reliable E2EE that wont cause data loss.
Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
#9shouldn't this get them turbo obliterated in europe?
no, in fact gdpr requires that they get consent before they process the data.
They are not preventing people from accessing the data, only indefinite storage as i understand. They may claim that storage is needed for the processing (which might make sense, they want to train on the whole time series).
Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
#10I was under the assumption that because of GDPR (which is in effect..).. or current "end-user metadata storage" best practices.. if you (a website/or app) didn't immediately disclose to the user what data is being used,stored, and why it is -- then you shouldn't store it at all.
If you agree that the world needs better examples today, then Samsung has definitely showed one.