US holds off blacklisting DeepSeek, more than 100 firms deemed security risks
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Re: US holds off blacklisting DeepSeek, more than 100 firms deemed security risks
#2> Anthropic said it identified a campaign by DeepSeek and two other Chinese AI labs to illicitly extract capabilities from its Claude AI platform to improve their own models
Oh, won’t someone think of the poor mass copyright infringers.
Re: US holds off blacklisting DeepSeek, more than 100 firms deemed security risks
#3> Anthropic said it identified a campaign by DeepSeek and two other Chinese AI labs to illicitly extract capabilities from its Claude AI platform to improve their own models Oh, won’t someone think of the poor mass copyright infringers.
Just because they did it doesn't mean more people should do it...
Re: US holds off blacklisting DeepSeek, more than 100 firms deemed security risks
#4> Anthropic said it identified a campaign by DeepSeek and two other Chinese AI labs to illicitly extract capabilities from its Claude AI platform to improve their own models Oh, won’t someone think of the poor mass copyright infringers.
If DeepSeek just would have destroyed the input in the process, it would have been legal and Anthropic should have been fine with it.
Re: US holds off blacklisting DeepSeek, more than 100 firms deemed security risks
#5> Anthropic said it identified a campaign by DeepSeek and two other Chinese AI labs to illicitly extract capabilities from its Claude AI platform to improve their own models Oh, won’t someone think of the poor mass copyright infringers.
gee I wonder how their models learned Chinese?
Re: US holds off blacklisting DeepSeek, more than 100 firms deemed security risks
#6> Anthropic said it identified a campaign by DeepSeek and two other Chinese AI labs to illicitly extract capabilities from its Claude AI platform to improve their own models Oh, won’t someone think of the poor mass copyright infringers.
Just because they did it doesn't mean more people should do it...
This doesn't at all change the irony of big AI labs complaining about Chinese startups stealing the labs' IP, essentially by scraping the responses.
HN has a higher proportion of AI promoters than AI skeptics, and for a good while, the default response to complaints from book authors, bloggers, and other content creators was that "you put it on the internet so it's fair game", or "it's no different from a human learning from your works". So yeah, unless we're willing to revise these answers, I think the same "tough luck" reasoning should apply here.
For folks who are at Anthropic, OpenAI, xAI, or Google, and think it's fundamentally different, I would ask you to think long and hard about that answer.
Re: US holds off blacklisting DeepSeek, more than 100 firms deemed security risks
#7> Anthropic said it identified a campaign by DeepSeek and two other Chinese AI labs to illicitly extract capabilities from its Claude AI platform to improve their own models Oh, won’t someone think of the poor mass copyright infringers.
"illicitly" implies a law that is being violated. What law?
Re: US holds off blacklisting DeepSeek, more than 100 firms deemed security risks
#8Hmm, my VPN provider explicitly has Chinese exit points. And whats funny is I can load AliPay from any CVS. (Like, seriously)
You can try to pry Qwen and Deepseek from my Graphene/Linux hands.
Re: US holds off blacklisting DeepSeek, more than 100 firms deemed security risks
#9> Anthropic said it identified a campaign by DeepSeek and two other Chinese AI labs to illicitly extract capabilities from its Claude AI platform to improve their own models Oh, won’t someone think of the poor mass copyright infringers.
Just because they did it doesn't mean more people should do it...
I like Ant, but also I support the tit-for-tat competition. In the best interest of consumers.
Re: US holds off blacklisting DeepSeek, more than 100 firms deemed security risks
#10> Anthropic said it identified a campaign by DeepSeek and two other Chinese AI labs to illicitly extract capabilities from its Claude AI platform to improve their own models Oh, won’t someone think of the poor mass copyright infringers.
Illicitly learning by asking someone a question and listening to their answer.