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Ask HN: Which cheap Chinese LLM are you using?

#1
In the last one or two months, starting from DeepSeek V4 Pro, there are quite many low-price Chinese models coming out. Their performance looks more or less similar to me: Mimo V2.5 Pro, MiniMax M3, and the just released GLM 5.2, etc.

Which model are you using now? Why? What are the good and bad parts?

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#5
deepseek v4 pro - but honestly it is comparable to gpt-5.4-mini, far from GPT5.4 let alone GPT5.5! Its advantage is really just its pricing. I'm going to give Kimi K2.7 a try - with K2.6, even its cloud chat locks up all the time, so it really didn't give me much confidence at all for agentic coding.

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post #5

deepseek v4 pro - but honestly it is comparable to gpt-5.4-mini, far from GPT5.4 let alone GPT5.5! Its advantage is really just its pricing. I'm going to give Kimi K2.7 a try - with K2.6, even its cloud chat locks up all the time, so it really didn't give me much confidence at all for agentic coding.

I think it is more like a post-training issue. DeepSeek is cheap enough for heavy token use, so it fits Hermes very well.

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post #5

deepseek v4 pro - but honestly it is comparable to gpt-5.4-mini, far from GPT5.4 let alone GPT5.5! Its advantage is really just its pricing. I'm going to give Kimi K2.7 a try - with K2.6, even its cloud chat locks up all the time, so it really didn't give me much confidence at all for agentic coding.

I think it is more like a post-training issue. DeepSeek is cheap enough for heavy token use, so it fits Hermes very well.

I did a bit of digging after this to see if my feeling was accurate, and lo-and-behold: https://deepswe.net/

Look at the gap between gpt5.4-mini vs deepseek v4 pro!

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#10

The main reason I'm using Chinese LLM is cost. Minimax M3 is a good deal with large context window. But, M3 jumps into implementation too quickly even when a task is clearly defined. It misses tests or edge cases, and occasionally lose track during longer work.

i just use review skills on my sessions/prs extensively until they're in a good place. then coverage skills (which add test coverage).

i built in skills to work with M3 in a service called typed, an ai cli. it uses m3 under the hood (up to ~500k tokens), then switches to deepseek for up to 1M. a few bells and whistles added of typescript/python coding optimization. and just built a custom TUI frontend for it (initially works with the claude code tui and still does).

to toggle the typed tui you can run:

typed cli on

typed cli off

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