The Tech Oligarch's Republic
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The Tech Oligarch's Republic
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#2It was fascinating, that the MAGA American conservatives lump the US together with Europe into "the West" though there has been significant differences in the averages people world view (and the elites ofc)
Europe (ofc also diverse internally) is a secular or secular-becoming continent. There wouldnt be any big movement fighting to put the 10 commandments into class rooms. This affects formally religious countries like Spain or Ireland and now also Poland.
Even most conservatives (at least in Germany) see gay rights as the part of the German way of life. See also the last judgement of the European Court of Justice regarding Hungary.
MAGA is lava for election in many many countries.
Also "in the West" people in countries like Canada, Australia or most European countries don't like to be lumped together with the US anyway. So why MAGA people care?
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#3It was fascinating, that the MAGA American conservatives lump the US together with Europe into "the West" though there has been significant differences in the averages people world view (and the elites ofc) Europe (ofc also diverse internally) is a secular or secular-becoming continent. There wouldnt be any big movement fighting to put the 10 commandments into class rooms. This affects formally religious countries li…
Because they perceive themselves as leading something bigger than a USA-only movement. Their concept of themselves has them being much more important than just affecting one nation.
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#4It was fascinating, that the MAGA American conservatives lump the US together with Europe into "the West" though there has been significant differences in the averages people world view (and the elites ofc) Europe (ofc also diverse internally) is a secular or secular-becoming continent. There wouldnt be any big movement fighting to put the 10 commandments into class rooms. This affects formally religious countries li…
For MAGA, saying the quiet part out loud, "the west" = white people. While I dislike looking at everything solely through a racial lens, I think in this case it applies.
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#5It was fascinating, that the MAGA American conservatives lump the US together with Europe into "the West" though there has been significant differences in the averages people world view (and the elites ofc) Europe (ofc also diverse internally) is a secular or secular-becoming continent. There wouldnt be any big movement fighting to put the 10 commandments into class rooms. This affects formally religious countries li…
I think the religion difference is a lot smaller than you're giving it credit for. In Germany, most conservatives vote for an explicitly Christian political party and Good Friday is a public holiday. It's also my understanding, although I haven't researched this in detail, that German public schools are permitted or even required to offer religious instruction far beyond what would be allowed in the US.
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#6It was fascinating, that the MAGA American conservatives lump the US together with Europe into "the West" though there has been significant differences in the averages people world view (and the elites ofc) Europe (ofc also diverse internally) is a secular or secular-becoming continent. There wouldnt be any big movement fighting to put the 10 commandments into class rooms. This affects formally religious countries li…
For MAGA, saying the quiet part out loud, "the west" = white people. While I dislike looking at everything solely through a racial lens, I think in this case it applies.
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#7It was fascinating, that the MAGA American conservatives lump the US together with Europe into "the West" though there has been significant differences in the averages people world view (and the elites ofc) Europe (ofc also diverse internally) is a secular or secular-becoming continent. There wouldnt be any big movement fighting to put the 10 commandments into class rooms. This affects formally religious countries li…
For MAGA, saying the quiet part out loud, "the west" = white people. While I dislike looking at everything solely through a racial lens, I think in this case it applies.
There really is no sense in pretending that this is not a white supremacy movement. They are saying it out loud. Now we just need to figure out what this means and how to deal with it.
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#8It was fascinating, that the MAGA American conservatives lump the US together with Europe into "the West" though there has been significant differences in the averages people world view (and the elites ofc) Europe (ofc also diverse internally) is a secular or secular-becoming continent. There wouldnt be any big movement fighting to put the 10 commandments into class rooms. This affects formally religious countries li…
Because they perceive themselves as leading something bigger than a USA-only movement. Their concept of themselves has them being much more important than just affecting one nation.
It is funny that in terms of values they are not a leader but a follower of Russia. The origin and protector of all their conservative values - including fake Christianity, view on power and gender, race, minorities government structure and so on and so forth.
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#9It was fascinating, that the MAGA American conservatives lump the US together with Europe into "the West" though there has been significant differences in the averages people world view (and the elites ofc) Europe (ofc also diverse internally) is a secular or secular-becoming continent. There wouldnt be any big movement fighting to put the 10 commandments into class rooms. This affects formally religious countries li…
> It was fascinating, that the MAGA American conservatives lump the US together with Europe into "the West"
This is not “MAGA Americans” characterization. It is the outcome of 2000+ years of history culminating in the U.S. being primarily populated by European peoples and the post WWII world order, with highlights including the Marshall Plan and NATO.
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#10It was fascinating, that the MAGA American conservatives lump the US together with Europe into "the West" though there has been significant differences in the averages people world view (and the elites ofc) Europe (ofc also diverse internally) is a secular or secular-becoming continent. There wouldnt be any big movement fighting to put the 10 commandments into class rooms. This affects formally religious countries li…
I think the religion difference is a lot smaller than you're giving it credit for. In Germany, most conservatives vote for an explicitly Christian political party and Good Friday is a public holiday. It's also my understanding, although I haven't researched this in detail, that German public schools are permitted or even required to offer religious instruction far beyond what would be allowed in the US.
The party is called the "Christian Democratic Party" but in practice pushes no christian policies. 47% of germans are legally atheists. Only 5% regularly visit mass.