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Ukraine Has Given Up on Trump

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Re: Ukraine Has Given Up on Trump

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Post by regnull »

Is anyone surprised? There is this inexplicable affinity between Trump and Putin. It's genuinely baffling, since it serves him very poorly (there is strong support for Ukraine in the US). What do you make of it is up to you, whether it's just his general admiration for dictators or something else. Ukraine is absolutely right to go its own way, with or without American support. Fortunately, the EU appears to stand firm, at least for now.

https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2025/12/majority-americans...

Re: Ukraine Has Given Up on Trump

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Post by jjgreen »

regnull wrote: post #3

Is anyone surprised? There is this inexplicable affinity between Trump and Putin. It's genuinely baffling, since it serves him very poorly (there is strong support for Ukraine in the US). What do you make of it is up to you, whether it's just his general admiration for dictators or something else. Ukraine is absolutely right to go its own way, with or without American support. Fortunately, the EU appears to stand fir…

Kompromat

Re: Ukraine Has Given Up on Trump

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Post by pestatije »

regnull wrote: post #3

Is anyone surprised? There is this inexplicable affinity between Trump and Putin. It's genuinely baffling, since it serves him very poorly (there is strong support for Ukraine in the US). What do you make of it is up to you, whether it's just his general admiration for dictators or something else. Ukraine is absolutely right to go its own way, with or without American support. Fortunately, the EU appears to stand fir…

he sees oil...the moment a way emerges to tap russian oil without Putin he will be done

Re: Ukraine Has Given Up on Trump

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Post by jazz9k »

cheaprentalyeti wrote: post #8
chistev wrote: post #5

What would Trump do differently if he was not a Russian agent?

I don't know. Maybe he'd attack Russian proxies in the middle east, that have killed large numbers of their citizens during recent protests, like Iran.

Lol. So cause a war with Russia and the US?

Would you say Biden was a XI agent?

Re: Ukraine Has Given Up on Trump

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Post by cheaprentalyeti »

jazz9k wrote: post #9
cheaprentalyeti wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know. Maybe he'd attack Russian proxies in the middle east, that have killed large numbers of their citizens during recent protests, like Iran.

Lol. So cause a war with Russia and the US? Would you say Biden was a XI agent?

He's probably not lucid enough to even know _why_ he granted a nice shiny federal pardon to the guy who funded Federal Grant No. R01AI110964 through the NIH to Ecohealth Alliance for research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. But the rest of you seem to be equally OK with ignoring why that happened, so I dunno. Maybe I'll take you seriously about Iran as a result?
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