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A. J. Ayer – ‘What I Saw When I Was Dead’ (1988)

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I011010011 wrote: post #3

Things that are worthy of discussion ( such as one in this posting ) rarely get any attention.

What is of discussion here?:

1. Restaurants should carry an anti-choking device. Too many elderly risk a stroke without it.

2. People often do have a delusion or vision just before death, one that is a product of their own brain, fitting their understanding of the world. I had an incredible vision when I had taken half an oxycodone prescribed for pain.

3. There are more ways of expressing one's belief or disbelief in god besides atheism and agnosticm. Consider "agnostic theism" which means “I believe god exists, but I do not know that with certainty”, also "agnostic atheism" which means “I don't believe in a god but also say it can’t be known.”

As for any genuine otherworldly vision, no, I don't believe that happened here.

Re: A. J. Ayer – ‘What I Saw When I Was Dead’ (1988)

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Post by u1hcw9nx »

For Ayer similar near death experiences give more evidence for the afterlife. I admit that it seems better than different, but it's still incredibly weak and not unexpected. Dying brain having similar perceptions is not that unexpected. Just like machine elves are when taking DMT.

Ayer makes good points that evidence of dualism does not imply 'spirit' or soul dualism, or existence of a deity.

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adzm wrote: post #4
I011010011 wrote: post #3

Things that are worthy of discussion ( such as one in this posting ) rarely get any attention.

It would be helpful if the site wasn't down...

I didn't have a problem loading the site. Odd. Try again later or something.

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OutOfHere wrote: post #5
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Things that are worthy of discussion ( such as one in this posting ) rarely get any attention.

What is of discussion here?: 1. Restaurants should carry an anti-choking device. Too many elderly risk a stroke without it. 2. People often do have a delusion or vision just before death, one that is a product of their own brain, fitting their understanding of the world. I had an incredible vision when I had taken half an oxycodone prescribed for pain. 3. There are more ways of expressing one's belief or disbelief in…

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