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The noise we make is hurting animals. Can we learn to shut up?

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Re: The noise we make is hurting animals. Can we learn to shut up?

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Post by stonecharioteer »

We don't have compassion for fellow human beings. I don't think we will ever have compassion for animals who are sensitive to noise.

Example: Diwali is a horrible time to be a stray animal in India. Heck, even my pets hate the festival. But humans will always be self obsessed and say it's for celebration. Sure.

Re: The noise we make is hurting animals. Can we learn to shut up?

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Post by everdrive »

Per Blaise Pascal, no they cannot: “All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone.”

We need to keep growing, building, making, taking. Some people seem to really love the bustle and creative destruction. I'm in my 40s, and I've always hated it. When I was a child, I wondered if when I grew up, I would fit naturally into the world the way that so many others seemed to. The answer was no. I don't know why people need to be the way they are. I don't feel comfortable in so many normal situations. The things that bother the animals bother me too, but for most people this is unthinkable in the same way that other modes of thought are unthinkable. (eg, when someone who thinks mostly in words learns that some people think only in pictures)

Re: The noise we make is hurting animals. Can we learn to shut up?

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Post by luckys »

What about the impact of EMF pollution? The book "the invisible rainbow' goes into that, though I don't expect this type of position to be well received in HN. I find it very healthy that this type of "invisible" pollution gets at least some discussion, however. We have to start somewhere.

Re: The noise we make is hurting animals. Can we learn to shut up?

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Post by Pay08 »

luckys wrote: post #5

What about the impact of EMF pollution? The book "the invisible rainbow' goes into that, though I don't expect this type of position to be well received in HN. I find it very healthy that this type of "invisible" pollution gets at least some discussion, however. We have to start somewhere.

Is that book actually based in science?

Re: The noise we make is hurting animals. Can we learn to shut up?

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

everdrive wrote: post #4

Per Blaise Pascal, no they cannot: “All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone.” We need to keep growing, building, making, taking. Some people seem to really love the bustle and creative destruction. I'm in my 40s, and I've always hated it. When I was a child, I wondered if when I grew up, I would fit naturally into the world the way that so many others seemed to. The answer…

I'd like to say that there may be some human cultures that are / were generally respectful to their environment and the animals therein, but it's hard to say how much that was an 'enforced' position based on their level of technological evolution.

I think it's a fundamental rule that the 'rape and pillage' types will always overrun the non-'rape and pillage' types. Much in the same way the sociopaths are able to climb the corporate ladder with relative ease. The nature of nature, seemingly.

Re: The noise we make is hurting animals. Can we learn to shut up?

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

windex wrote: post #6

During the Covid lockdowns in India, I saw birds I had not seen in decades. It was amazing; the skies had cleared up, and nature truly was recovering.

And humanity as-a-whole learnt nothing.

Let's hope there's some more movement in the right direction as a result of _this_ crisis.

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