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The State of Immutable Linux

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Re: The State of Immutable Linux

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Post by bjoli »

I went all in about a year ago after running microOs for some time. I am pretty happy with the situation, and while I do like the transactional-update way of microos, their immutable desktops have been too much work for me. Kalpa is alpha, and aeon runs gnome. I tried for a year, but one day I had enough and installed kinoite and haven't looked back (although I have been looking at Aurora).

Since you never touch the base system, you get more or less a rolling release distro, since updating between fedora versions becomes even simpler.

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Post by madspindel »

> It’s 2026, if you’re not using something immutable (or at least reproducable) you’re doing more maintenance work than you should.

I used to use MicroOS on Raspberry Pis and NUCs but the rolling release actually led to more maintenance work (fixing breaking changes like config changes). Eventually I moved to Ubuntu but kept the mindset that all installed applications should be podman containers. I don't miss MicroOS...

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Post by evanjrowley »

Glad to see Talos Linux there!

Another interesting, though less radical take on an immutable container OS is IncusOS. Made by the same people behind LXC: https://github.com/lxc/incus-os

I wish the article's NixOS section had mentioned impermanence features which can be used to make NixOS actually immutable: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Impermanence

Re: The State of Immutable Linux

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Post by JustinGarrison »

evanjrowley wrote: post #4

Glad to see Talos Linux there! Another interesting, though less radical take on an immutable container OS is IncusOS. Made by the same people behind LXC: https://github.com/lxc/incus-os I wish the article's NixOS section had mentioned impermanence features which can be used to make NixOS actually immutable: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Impermanence

I work at Sidero, but I'm glad that wasn't obvious from the article because I'm trying to be fair.

I heard about Impermanence right after I gave the talk so I'm looking into it.

Re: The State of Immutable Linux

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Post by dizhn »

evanjrowley wrote: post #4

Glad to see Talos Linux there! Another interesting, though less radical take on an immutable container OS is IncusOS. Made by the same people behind LXC: https://github.com/lxc/incus-os I wish the article's NixOS section had mentioned impermanence features which can be used to make NixOS actually immutable: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Impermanence

I am not really interested in an immutable desktop OS but that incus OS sounds interesting. I use Proxmox and if prox were to be immutable I wouldn't mind that.

Re: The State of Immutable Linux

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Post by dindresto »

evanjrowley wrote: post #4

Glad to see Talos Linux there! Another interesting, though less radical take on an immutable container OS is IncusOS. Made by the same people behind LXC: https://github.com/lxc/incus-os I wish the article's NixOS section had mentioned impermanence features which can be used to make NixOS actually immutable: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Impermanence

FYI that is the old unofficial wiki, the official NixOS wiki is at https://wiki.nixos.org/wiki/Impermanence (although this particular article is also outdated there)
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