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Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

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Re: Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

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Post by rahimnathwani »

Atuin AI sounds like a useful addition. The page suggests they're probably using hosted models:

  We use the latest frontier models, which already do a good job of generating commands using well-known binaries and CLIs. On top of that, we integrate a dataset powered by man pages and command outputs to ensure you get the correct command first.
This is great, but does it mean we'll need to log in somehow? It doesn't seem reasonable to expect the project maintainers to pay for the tokens.

EDIT: I was unaware of Atuin's 'hub' which does things like sync your shell history across computers. I think they use the same sign-in as they already use for that: https://hub.atuin.sh/register

Re: Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

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Post by embedding-shape »

rahimnathwani wrote: post #3

Atuin AI sounds like a useful addition. The page suggests they're probably using hosted models: We use the latest frontier models, which already do a good job of generating commands using well-known binaries and CLIs. On top of that, we integrate a dataset powered by man pages and command outputs to ensure you get the correct command first. This is great, but does it mean we'll need to log in somehow? It doesn't seem…

This part:

> On top of that, we integrate a dataset powered by man pages and command outputs to ensure you get the correct command first.

Also makes it sound like they're "providing that dataset", rather than generating that from the users computer. Wouldn't that mean it's potentially a mismatch between various versions of the software available? Not to mention some OSes will have a different version of some software available compared to others, how does it deal with those situations if they're shipping a dataset?

Re: Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

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Post by lta »

Why does every tool on the face of earth try to add AI features ? Good tools are simple and orthogonal. If you want AI, there's already plenty of other tools doing it probably better.

I'm overall fairly disappointed by this announcement. This IMHO doesn't bode well

Re: Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

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Post by _ache_ »

embedding-shape wrote: post #4
rahimnathwani wrote: post #3

Atuin AI sounds like a useful addition. The page suggests they're probably using hosted models: We use the latest frontier models, which already do a good job of generating commands using well-known binaries and CLIs. On top of that, we integrate a dataset powered by man pages and command outputs to ensure you get the correct command first. This is great, but does it mean we'll need to log in somehow? It doesn't seem…

This part: > On top of that, we integrate a dataset powered by man pages and command outputs to ensure you get the correct command first. Also makes it sound like they're "providing that dataset", rather than generating that from the users computer. Wouldn't that mean it's potentially a mismatch between various versions of the software available? Not to mention some OSes will have a different version of some software…

There is no way is it not generated on user computer.

"get the correct command first" and "shipping a [external] dataset" are incompatible.

Re: Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

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Post by justech »

dc_giant wrote: post #7

Hmm might be great for some. I’m a Unix philosophy guy, one tool for one job. So far atuin was fine to be a better search history. Now it might be time to look for simpler alternative. Any suggestions? (I’m on zsh)

I tried atuin and then switched back to fzf[0]. It's less features but that's not necessarily a negative.

[0]https://github.com/junegunn/fzf

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