Codegen is not productivity
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Codegen is not productivity
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#2Bold claims that writing code was never the bottleneck. It may not be the only bottleneck but we conveniently move goal posts now that there is a more convenient mechanism and our profession is under threat.
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#3You can write cope like this all you want but it doesn't change the fact I can ship a feature in few days that previously would have taken me a few weeks.
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#4The collaboration aspect is what many AI enthusiasts miss. As humans, our success is dependent on our ability to collaborate with others. You may believe that AI could replace many individual software engineers, but if it does so at the expense of harming collaboration, it’s a massive loss. AI tools are simply not good at collaborating. When you add many humans to a project, the result becomes greater than the sum of its parts. When you add many AI tools to a project, it quickly becomes a muddled mess.
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#5You can write cope like this all you want but it doesn't change the fact I can ship a feature in few days that previously would have taken me a few weeks.
Can you provide some examples?
Re: Codegen is not productivity
#6The collaboration aspect is what many AI enthusiasts miss. As humans, our success is dependent on our ability to collaborate with others. You may believe that AI could replace many individual software engineers, but if it does so at the expense of harming collaboration, it’s a massive loss. AI tools are simply not good at collaborating. When you add many humans to a project, the result becomes greater than the sum of…
AI will allow us to collaborate on higher level decisions and not on whether we should use for loops or functional interfaces.
Re: Codegen is not productivity
#7The collaboration aspect is what many AI enthusiasts miss. As humans, our success is dependent on our ability to collaborate with others. You may believe that AI could replace many individual software engineers, but if it does so at the expense of harming collaboration, it’s a massive loss. AI tools are simply not good at collaborating. When you add many humans to a project, the result becomes greater than the sum of…
> AI tools are simply not good at collaborating
My primary use of LLM tools is as a collaborator.
I agree that if you try to use the LLM as a wholesale outsourcing of your thought process the results don’t scale. That’s not the only way to use them, though.
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#8Bold claims that writing code was never the bottleneck. It may not be the only bottleneck but we conveniently move goal posts now that there is a more convenient mechanism and our profession is under threat.
There's plenty of evidence of this line of thinking even from before the turn of the Millennium. Mythical Man Month, No Silver Bullet, Code Complete, they all gesture at this point.
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#9You can write cope like this all you want but it doesn't change the fact I can ship a feature in few days that previously would have taken me a few weeks.
THIS
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#10Bold claims that writing code was never the bottleneck. It may not be the only bottleneck but we conveniently move goal posts now that there is a more convenient mechanism and our profession is under threat.
our profession is under threat.