Swiss e-voting pilot can't count 2,048 ballots after decryption failure
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Re: Swiss e-voting pilot can't count 2,048 ballots after decryption failure
#2The title is misleading. It's an e-voting PILOT. That's important. "Switzerland is running small-scale e-voting pilots in four of its 26 cantons", three of which were not affected.
From Wikipedia [1]:
> A pilot experiment, pilot study, pilot test or pilot project is a small-scale preliminary study conducted to evaluate feasibility, duration, cost, adverse events, and improve upon the study design prior to performance of a full-scale research project.
Re: Swiss e-voting pilot can't count 2,048 ballots after decryption failure
#3Meanwhile Brazil does full e-vote for almost 30 years collecting more than 100 million votes (that's 11 times the whole of Switzerland's population).
You'll get there Switzerland, it can be done. It is safer and faster.
Re: Swiss e-voting pilot can't count 2,048 ballots after decryption failure
#4Meanwhile Brazil does full e-vote for almost 30 years collecting more than 100 million votes (that's 11 times the whole of Switzerland's population). You'll get there Switzerland, it can be done. It is safer and faster.
And they probably started with small-scale pilots, too.
Re: Swiss e-voting pilot can't count 2,048 ballots after decryption failure
#5The title is misleading. It's an e-voting PILOT. That's important. "Switzerland is running small-scale e-voting pilots in four of its 26 cantons", three of which were not affected. From Wikipedia [1]: > A pilot experiment, pilot study, pilot test or pilot project is a small-scale preliminary study conducted to evaluate feasibility, duration, cost, adverse events, and improve upon the study design prior to performance…
Had to truncate the title since too long for HN (often the case for the Register)
Re: Swiss e-voting pilot can't count 2,048 ballots after decryption failure
#6eVoting cannot be understood and audited by normal citizens, not even by nerdy ones. It's just good for the trash.
Re: Swiss e-voting pilot can't count 2,048 ballots after decryption failure
#7It’s a nice property of elections that you can measure votes needing more intervention against the margin of victory before you decide your next step
Re: Swiss e-voting pilot can't count 2,048 ballots after decryption failure
#8The title is misleading. It's an e-voting PILOT. That's important. "Switzerland is running small-scale e-voting pilots in four of its 26 cantons", three of which were not affected. From Wikipedia [1]: > A pilot experiment, pilot study, pilot test or pilot project is a small-scale preliminary study conducted to evaluate feasibility, duration, cost, adverse events, and improve upon the study design prior to performance…
Had to truncate the title since too long for HN (often the case for the Register)
And it makes it sound like a production system failed, where what actually happened is that this was a pilot that worked in 3/4 of the involved cantons and that the people who participated to it knew it was a pilot.
Re: Swiss e-voting pilot can't count 2,048 ballots after decryption failure
#9Meanwhile Brazil does full e-vote for almost 30 years collecting more than 100 million votes (that's 11 times the whole of Switzerland's population). You'll get there Switzerland, it can be done. It is safer and faster.
And they probably started with small-scale pilots, too.
Yes, they did.
But I think that the main reason is that Brazil's elections were a lot dirtier and a lot more unreliable than Switzerland's.
What I mean is that the push towards e-voting is much stronger in countries with unreliable elections, because e-voting is harder to tamper than the crude ways you can defraud paper ballots.
Switzerland's and other organized countries have elections that are "good enough", so the push towards e-voting is probably not that strong.
Is the "leapfrog" concept. Sometimes it is easier to adopt newer technologies in places where the existing ones are horrible. Other examples: electronic payment systems, solar panels and EVs in India and Africa.
Re: Swiss e-voting pilot can't count 2,048 ballots after decryption failure
#10eVoting cannot be understood and audited by normal citizens, not even by nerdy ones. It's just good for the trash.
Also e-voting can be hacked (I guess they vote from their computer/smartphone, which can be hacked from the other side of the world). The last place you want to care about phishing, IMO, is voting.
Good luck hacking in-person voting or even "physical" mail voting from the other side of the world.