Breaking the spell of vibe coding
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#2Ive come to the realization after maxing the x20 plan that I have to set clear priorities.
Fortunately, I've retired so I'm going focus on flooding the zone with my crazy ideas made manifest in books.
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#3> However, it is important to ask if you want to stop investing in your own skills because of a speculative prediction made by an AI researcher or tech CEO.
I don't think these are exclusive. Almost a year ago, I wrote a blog post about this [0]. I spent the time since then both learning better software design and learning to vibe code. I've worked through Domain-Driven Design Distilled, Domain-Driven Design, Implementing Domain-Driven Design, Design Patterns, The Art of Agile Software Development, 2nd Edition, Clean Architecture, Smalltalk Best Practice Patterns, and Tidy First?. I'm a far better software engineer than I was in 2024. I've also vibe coded [1] a whole lot of software [2], some good and some bad [3].
You can choose to grow in both areas.
[0]: https://kerrick.blog/articles/2025/kerricks-wager/
[1]: As defined in Vibe Coding: Building Production-Grade Software With GenAI, Chat, Agents, and Beyond by Gene Kim and Steve Yegge, wherein you still take responsibility for the code you deliver.
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#4> However, it is important to ask if you want to stop investing in your own skills because of a speculative prediction made by an AI researcher or tech CEO. I don't think these are exclusive. Almost a year ago, I wrote a blog post about this [0]. I spent the time since then both learning better software design and learning to vibe code. I've worked through Domain-Driven Design Distilled , Domain-Driven Design , Imple…
Of those 3 DDD books - which did you find the most valuable?
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#5Just because you’re a good programmer / software engineer doesn’t mean you’re a good architect, or a good UI designer, or a good product manager. Yet in my experience, using LLMs to successfully produce software really works those architect, designer, and manager muscles, and thus requires them to be strong.
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#7I think it all boils down to, which is higher risk, using AI too much, or using AI too little?
Right now I see the former as being hugely risky. Hallucinated bugs, coaxed into dead-end architectures, security concerns, not being familiar with the code when a bug shows up in production, less sense of ownership, less hands-on learning, etc. This is true both at the personal level and at the business level. (And astounding that CEOs haven't made that connection yet).
The latter, you may be less productive than optimal, but might the hands-on training and fundamental understanding of the codebase make up for it in the long run?
Additionally, I personally find my best ideas often happen when knee deep in some codebase, hitting some weird edge case that doesn't fit, that would probably never come up if I was just reviewing an already-completed PR.
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#8> However, it is important to ask if you want to stop investing in your own skills because of a speculative prediction made by an AI researcher or tech CEO. I don't think these are exclusive. Almost a year ago, I wrote a blog post about this [0]. I spent the time since then both learning better software design and learning to vibe code. I've worked through Domain-Driven Design Distilled , Domain-Driven Design , Imple…
I personally found out that knowing how to use ai coding assistants productively is a skill like any other and a) it requires a significant investment of time b) can be quite rewarding to learn just as any other skill c) might be useful now or in the future and d) doesn't negate the usefulness of any other skills acquired on the past nor diminishes the usefulness of learning new skills in the future
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Fascinating - I find the opposite is true. I think of edge cases more and direct the exploration of them. I’ve found my 35 years experience tells me where the gaps will be and I’m usually right. I’ve been able to build much more complex software than before not because I didn’t know how but because as one person I couldn’t possibly do it. The process isn’t any easier just faster.
I’ve found also AI assisted stuff is remarkable for algorithmically complex things to implement.
However one thing I definitely identify with is the trouble sleeping. I am finally able to do a plethora of things I couldn’t do before due to the limits of one man typing. But I don’t build tools I don’t need, I have too little time and too many needs.
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#10> However, it is important to ask if you want to stop investing in your own skills because of a speculative prediction made by an AI researcher or tech CEO. I don't think these are exclusive. Almost a year ago, I wrote a blog post about this [0]. I spent the time since then both learning better software design and learning to vibe code. I've worked through Domain-Driven Design Distilled , Domain-Driven Design , Imple…
Of those 3 DDD books - which did you find the most valuable?
I was going to ask the same thing. I'm self taught but I've mainly gone the other way, more interested in learning about lower level things. Bang for buck I think I might have been better reading DDD type books.