Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in Santa Monica
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Re: Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in Santa Monica
#2From the Waymo blog...
> the pedestrian suddenly entered the roadway from behind a tall SUV, moving directly into our vehicle's path. Our technology immediately detected the individual as soon as they began to emerge from behind the stopped vehicle. The Waymo Driver braked hard, reducing speed from approximately 17 mph to under 6 mph before contact was made.
> Following contact, the pedestrian stood up immediately, walked to the sidewalk, and we called 911. The vehicle remained stopped, moved to the side of the road, and stayed there until law enforcement cleared the vehicle to leave the scene.
> Following the event, we voluntarily contacted the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) that same day.
I honestly cannot imagine a better outcome or handling of the situation.
Re: Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in Santa Monica
#3> The vehicle remained stopped, moved to the side of the road
How do you remain stopped but also move to the side of the road? Thats a contradiction. Just like Cruise.
Re: Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in Santa Monica
#4> The vehicle remained stopped, moved to the side of the road How do you remain stopped but also move to the side of the road? Thats a contradiction. Just like Cruise.
My reading of that is that they mean stopped the progression of the journey rather that made no movement whatsoever.
Re: Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in Santa Monica
#5> The vehicle remained stopped, moved to the side of the road How do you remain stopped but also move to the side of the road? Thats a contradiction. Just like Cruise.
They mean the vehicle didn't drive away. It moved to the side of the road and then stopped and waited.
Re: Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in Santa Monica
#6A human driver would most likely have killed this child. That's what should be on the ledger.
Re: Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in Santa Monica
#7From the Waymo blog... > the pedestrian suddenly entered the roadway from behind a tall SUV, moving directly into our vehicle's path. Our technology immediately detected the individual as soon as they began to emerge from behind the stopped vehicle. The Waymo Driver braked hard, reducing speed from approximately 17 mph to under 6 mph before contact was made. > Following contact, the pedestrian stood up immediately, w…
Most humans in that situation won't have reaction speed to do shit about it and it could result in a severe injury or death.
Re: Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in Santa Monica
#8From the Waymo blog... > the pedestrian suddenly entered the roadway from behind a tall SUV, moving directly into our vehicle's path. Our technology immediately detected the individual as soon as they began to emerge from behind the stopped vehicle. The Waymo Driver braked hard, reducing speed from approximately 17 mph to under 6 mph before contact was made. > Following contact, the pedestrian stood up immediately, w…
Yup. And to add
> Waymo said in its blog post that its “peer-reviewed model” shows a “fully attentive human driver in this same situation would have made contact with the pedestrian at approximately 14 mph.”
It's likely that a fully-attentive human driver would have done worse. With a distracted driver (a huge portion of human drivers) it could've been catastrophic.
Re: Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in Santa Monica
#9A human driver would most likely have killed this child. That's what should be on the ledger.
For me, the policy question I want answered is if this was a human driver we would have a clear person to sue for liability and damages. For a computer, who is ultimately responsible in a situation where suing for compensation happens? Is it the company? An officer in the company? This creates a situation where a company can afford to bury litigants in costs to even sue, whereas a private driver would lean on their insurance.
Re: Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in Santa Monica
#10A human driver would most likely have killed this child. That's what should be on the ledger.
For me, the policy question I want answered is if this was a human driver we would have a clear person to sue for liability and damages. For a computer, who is ultimately responsible in a situation where suing for compensation happens? Is it the company? An officer in the company? This creates a situation where a company can afford to bury litigants in costs to even sue, whereas a private driver would lean on their i…
So you're worried that instead of facing off against an insurance agency, the plantiff would be facing off against a private company? Doesn't seem like a huge difference to me