Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof
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Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof
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Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof
#2Isn't it enough to take down the DNS servers to make TPB unusable for sharing (at least to add new torrents) ?
Achieving fault tolerance using a few cloud providers is nice (and expensive) but they're still far from raid proof (all it takes is some coordination from police in multiple countries).
Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof
#3Unless they raid the cloud...?
Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof
#4Isn't it enough to take down the DNS servers to make TPB unusable for sharing (at least to add new torrents) ? Achieving fault tolerance using a few cloud providers is nice (and expensive) but they're still far from raid proof (all it takes is some coordination from police in multiple countries).
According to the article the main vulnerability would be the load-balancer, which is hosted separately. Traffic between it and the cloud instances is encrypted, so that the cloud providers don't actually know they're hosting The Pirate Bay.
Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof
#5Isn't it enough to take down the DNS servers to make TPB unusable for sharing (at least to add new torrents) ? Achieving fault tolerance using a few cloud providers is nice (and expensive) but they're still far from raid proof (all it takes is some coordination from police in multiple countries).
It's an increasingly technical digital game of whack-a-mole, and the mole has completed another burrow.
There are still technical measures that could be taken with-in one country. Eg. automated null-routing of A records for thepiratebase.se (and then do it N-times a second).
Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof
#6Isn't it enough to take down the DNS servers to make TPB unusable for sharing (at least to add new torrents) ? Achieving fault tolerance using a few cloud providers is nice (and expensive) but they're still far from raid proof (all it takes is some coordination from police in multiple countries).
It's an increasingly technical digital game of whack-a-mole, and the mole has completed another burrow. There are still technical measures that could be taken with-in one country. Eg. automated null-routing of A records for thepiratebase.se (and then do it N-times a second).
All it takes is for some political body to lean heavily enough on the TLD registry. .se and .org are no more invulnerable to this than .com
Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof
#7Isn't it enough to take down the DNS servers to make TPB unusable for sharing (at least to add new torrents) ? Achieving fault tolerance using a few cloud providers is nice (and expensive) but they're still far from raid proof (all it takes is some coordination from police in multiple countries).
In the case of a DNS takedown, all it would take would be for The Pirate Bay to publish a browser extension that stores a few IP addresses and "drops in" whenever the user attempts to acces thepiratebay.se.
Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's an increasingly technical digital game of whack-a-mole, and the mole has completed another burrow. There are still technical measures that could be taken with-in one country. Eg. automated null-routing of A records for thepiratebase.se (and then do it N-times a second).
All it takes is for some political body to lean heavily enough on the TLD registry. .se and .org are no more invulnerable to this than .com
Perhaps. And that's why you have many TLDs. So .se and .org are gone, so it moves somewhere else, then it moves again.
Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof
#9Unless they raid the cloud...?
(a) You have to find out what cloud provider
(b) You have to raid 2 cloud providers
(c) what if they have 4 backup cloud installs ready to go live? You take out the 2 there, and then 2 more in a different, unknown hosting company go live.
Re: Pirate Bay Moves to The Cloud, Becomes Raid-Proof
#10It's like robin hood taking from the rich and giving to the poor, his motives are pure, depending on how you look at it, and robin hood can continue this as long as the governing body who wants him dead is inept at catching him. The pirate bay, like robin hood, cannot live forever. SOME of us will only be stronger than ALL of us for brief moments in history. The only way TPB is to survive is for it to make good on its invisibility promise and make both the users and and distributors invisible to those who want it dead. There needs to be a creative mechanism to render the service invisible to those who disagree with its existence, and to render it visible to those who crave data.
It won't matter that TPB is distributed, clouded, encrypted, PTP, or whatever. When the governments are successful in getting SOPA, ACTA or whatever through congress, the ISP's and companies like Google and Apple are going to be made responsible for cooking into their devices preventions for unauthorized copying and unauthorized distribution of 3d schematics for weapons that pass through their ISP's or their hardware. As elite as TPB thinks they are, a few elite hackers can't fight an army of mediocre hackers.
An important factor in TPB living forever is preserving its image in the hearts and minds of ALL hackers everywhere, worldwide, collectively we can outsmart those who wish to catch us, a small group of us will eventually be defeated, as all robin hoods must be. We have to have the hackers on the ground floor who wish TPB to live forever inside Google, Comcast, Apple, HP, MPAA, RIAA, and everywhere else. The battle for control what you can think, what you can do inside the comfort of your own mind is under attack. The battle begins here, with the ownership of what can take place in your computer. Soon these computers will be our minds, and the governments will rule over the thoughts that take place inside them. We will wake up as directive following slaves on the land our fathers conquered. We have to have a 10 and a 50 year plan.