Unmasking The Biggest Troll on Reddit
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Unmasking The Biggest Troll on Reddit
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#2You cannot say both of these things together and be a decent human being:
I asked if he regretted anything he had posted, now that he'd be found out. No, he said. "I would stand by exactly what I've done."
"My wife is disabled. I got a home and a mortgage, and if this hits the fan, I believe this will affect negatively on my employment," he said. "I do my job, go home watch TV, and go on the internet. I just like riling people up in my spare time."
So the real answer is yes, he does regret it, will probably have real percussions that affect him and his family and saying things online should be filtered with the same level as if you were talking to someone in person.
Free speech does not mean speech without responsibility.
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#3This action against violentacrez seems nasty and vitriolic.
His only "crime" in the article is moderating/posting non-nude pictures of teenage girls -- while removing actual nude pictures of the same.
This is not an actual crime and while society discourages non-nude pictures of teenage girls -- as it forms part of an unofficial no-go zone between adult pornography and pedophilia -- there are whole industries (modelling, beauty pageants, pop singers) that thrive doing exactly this to 16 year old girls.
So Adrian Chen is creeped out by a legal behavior and decides to defame someone who is -- on all other apparent metrics -- a positive, diligent member of a number of communities. Additionally, Chen has heaped shame and entirely fictional guilt (since there's no crime) on this person to the point where he feels he needs to withdraw.
Chen seems like the troll here.
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#4This action against violentacrez seems nasty and vitriolic. His only "crime" in the article is moderating/posting non-nude pictures of teenage girls -- while removing actual nude pictures of the same. This is not an actual crime and while society discourages non-nude pictures of teenage girls -- as it forms part of an unofficial no-go zone between adult pornography and pedophilia -- there are whole industries (modell…
It would be easier to prove his troll-ness if he didn't delete his account, but he was definitely a troll as well as a free speech advocate. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's not a crime.
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#5This action against violentacrez seems nasty and vitriolic. His only "crime" in the article is moderating/posting non-nude pictures of teenage girls -- while removing actual nude pictures of the same. This is not an actual crime and while society discourages non-nude pictures of teenage girls -- as it forms part of an unofficial no-go zone between adult pornography and pedophilia -- there are whole industries (modell…
(while I was writing this you edited out your disagreement with the word "troll" but I'll leave this)
The definition of "troll" includes someone who posts inflammatory material (text, images or otherwise).
Doesn't have to be illegal, just inflammatory.
Certainly you agree he is inflammatory, you just think he has the right to be?
I don't think the "everyone else does it" argument flies either.
I don't think doxxing people is right but that doesn't make what he did right either.
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#6This action against violentacrez seems nasty and vitriolic. His only "crime" in the article is moderating/posting non-nude pictures of teenage girls -- while removing actual nude pictures of the same. This is not an actual crime and while society discourages non-nude pictures of teenage girls -- as it forms part of an unofficial no-go zone between adult pornography and pedophilia -- there are whole industries (modell…
The full story is over on Gawker, the Atlantic article is just a summary that assumes you already know who this dude is.
http://gawker.com/5950981/unmasking-reddits-violentacrez-the...
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#7This action against violentacrez seems nasty and vitriolic. His only "crime" in the article is moderating/posting non-nude pictures of teenage girls -- while removing actual nude pictures of the same. This is not an actual crime and while society discourages non-nude pictures of teenage girls -- as it forms part of an unofficial no-go zone between adult pornography and pedophilia -- there are whole industries (modell…
The full story is over on Gawker, the Atlantic article is just a summary that assumes you already know who this dude is. http://gawker.com/5950981/unmasking-reddits-violentacrez-the...
The problem was you cannot link to gawker from HN submissions, it's banned here too.
And apparently there is a new moderation mode that removes/prevents articles from being on the front page, because that just happened too.
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#8You cannot say both of these things together and be a decent human being: I asked if he regretted anything he had posted, now that he'd be found out. No, he said. "I would stand by exactly what I've done." "My wife is disabled. I got a home and a mortgage, and if this hits the fan, I believe this will affect negatively on my employment," he said. "I do my job, go home watch TV, and go on the internet. I just like ril…
Not that I'm defending violentacrez, but to say that he fears reprisal does not mean he did anything wrong.
It's really hard to get a clear picture, because I'm not familiar with violentacrez's ouvre, but being painted as a child pornographer would probably hurt most people's career.
I've seen r/jailbait. It was creepy, but as another commenter points out, not more creepy than most child/teen beauty pageants. I think because it's on a strange + ungoverned corner of the internet, it was easily painted as illegal when it was only very creepy.
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#9This action against violentacrez seems nasty and vitriolic. His only "crime" in the article is moderating/posting non-nude pictures of teenage girls -- while removing actual nude pictures of the same. This is not an actual crime and while society discourages non-nude pictures of teenage girls -- as it forms part of an unofficial no-go zone between adult pornography and pedophilia -- there are whole industries (modell…
(while I was writing this you edited out your disagreement with the word "troll" but I'll leave this) The definition of "troll" includes someone who posts inflammatory material (text, images or otherwise). Doesn't have to be illegal, just inflammatory. Certainly you agree he is inflammatory, you just think he has the right to be? I don't think the "everyone else does it" argument flies either. I don't think doxxing p…
Yeah, sorry about that. I contradicted my own first sentence, so I removed it. The article did clarify how "troll" applied in this case.
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#10For those saying hes a normal guy who just likes trolling, the article mentions "Michael Brutsch had sex with his step daughter"
He was also the creator of subreddits that dealt with glorifying beating women and children. He has 100% of the right to live on the line and be a griefer and/or troll. He also has 100% of the right to feel the wrath of people he pisses off.
As a internet free speech advocate, I am sad that things are in this situation. As a parent and decent human being, I am not. He is surely on many FBI lists now.