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Is Firefox Firefucked?

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Re: Is Firefox Firefucked?

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Firefox's main problem is Firefox users. Seriously, there's nothing but griping about it but it's pretty much the only browser holding back the rendering engine monopoly (intentionally excluding WebKit).

Re: Is Firefox Firefucked?

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post #2

Firefox's main problem is Firefox users. Seriously, there's nothing but griping about it but it's pretty much the only browser holding back the rendering engine monopoly (intentionally excluding WebKit).

Ah yes, blame the users for management's incompetence, what is this, game industry ?

Re: Is Firefox Firefucked?

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post #2

Firefox's main problem is Firefox users. Seriously, there's nothing but griping about it but it's pretty much the only browser holding back the rendering engine monopoly (intentionally excluding WebKit).

I think it's fair to criticize Firefox's user base, but I'm not sure their criticisms amount to very much. ie, if Firefox had a totally pliant user base it seems like Mozilla still would have driven it into the ground.

Re: Is Firefox Firefucked?

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post #2

Firefox's main problem is Firefox users. Seriously, there's nothing but griping about it but it's pretty much the only browser holding back the rendering engine monopoly (intentionally excluding WebKit).

What is this fad on HN right now? All these people are coming out to criticize Firefox (Mozilla really, not Firefox itself) for their bumbling about the past few years, and now there's a backlash to it, like "these entitled users, oh my goodness" as though holding software companies to a standard is somehow a bad thing?

Re: Is Firefox Firefucked?

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post #2

Firefox's main problem is Firefox users. Seriously, there's nothing but griping about it but it's pretty much the only browser holding back the rendering engine monopoly (intentionally excluding WebKit).

> it's pretty much the only browser holding back the rendering engine monopoly

Maybe that's why they're complaining. Maybe they don't want Firefox spending it's time working itself into oblivion.

Of course the Mozilla Foundation isn't bound in any way to listen to them so it's going to happen anyway, but Firefox's users are upset for good reasons.

Re: Is Firefox Firefucked?

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I have never been as happy with Firefox as I am in 2025. Yet… Sometimes my fellow FF users seems to be making a worse advertisement than the ”you should rewrite this application in Rust” does for Rust, and those people have by sheer annoyance effectively made me never pick up Rust because I do not want to be associated with them.

Re: Is Firefox Firefucked?

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I'm concerned, and I am glad people keep writing about this.

But the final bit in this post is really where I'm at: I have no idea where to go from here.

Currently on mobile I use Orion--it's the only mobile browser I've found where setting up AdBlocking is reasonably easy. Maybe I'll try it on Desktop.

But this doesn't really address the issue of there being only one rendering engine out there because it uses WebKit.

Re: Is Firefox Firefucked?

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post #2

Firefox's main problem is Firefox users. Seriously, there's nothing but griping about it but it's pretty much the only browser holding back the rendering engine monopoly (intentionally excluding WebKit).

Holding people in power accountable is never a bad thing.

Re: Is Firefox Firefucked?

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post #2

Firefox's main problem is Firefox users. Seriously, there's nothing but griping about it but it's pretty much the only browser holding back the rendering engine monopoly (intentionally excluding WebKit).

Ah yes, blame the users for management's incompetence, what is this, game industry ?

We're just holding it wrong, that's all.
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