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The architecture of “not bad”: Decoding the Chinese source code of the void

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Re: The architecture of “not bad”: Decoding the Chinese source code of the void

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The language pattern the author refers to is called litotes ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litotes ), but to say that English doesn’t use them is… not quite right.

Not quite right, but not quite wrong, no? The pattern seems similar, but I think of litotes (as the Wikipedia article suggests) as a rhetorical device: the assertion-by-negation carries an ironic charge, and strikes the (Western) ear by standing out from the ordinary affirmative register.

If I'm understanding the author's account of Chinese assertion-by-negation correctly, doesn't it sound like assertion-by-negation is the ordinary case in that linguistic tradition, and it's the assertive case that jars the ear? Same pattern, different effect?

Re: The architecture of “not bad”: Decoding the Chinese source code of the void

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Maybe there's a difference in frequency of usage, but we also say things like "he's not wrong" pretty often in English.

I reckon a decept part of that is due to American English vs. British English.

A great example of this is the Korean War, where a British brigadier in an extremely difficult situation told an American general "Things are a bit sticky, sir" - who interpreted it as "Could be better, but we're holding the line". The misunderstanding resulted in 500 dead and captured.

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