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Samsung Creates New File System F2FS For Linux, Good News For Android

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Re: Samsung Creates New File System F2FS For Linux, Good News For Android

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Hopefully they'll do a better job than last time they tried this: the galaxy S had a custom filesystem called RFS, in reality it was just fat32 with crappy journaling bolted on. It totally crippled the phone, causing a lengthly block every time a file was closed. It would also fight with the chips own wear levelling algorithms. It sucked. If you owned that phone and thought it sucked, with loads of UI lag, it was because of samsung's custom filesystem, which was also supposedly optimised for NAND.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799931

Re: Samsung Creates New File System F2FS For Linux, Good News For Android

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File systems are extremely fickle things requiring the utmost attention to detail and quality. There is an impedance mismatch between that and most people's image of Samsung-produced software.

I don't think that's a very reasonable thing to say. Samsung-LSI (which is the "Samsung" in question here) consistently makes better BSPs than, say, TI or nvidia (with their big WinCE-like layer inside the kernel).

Samsung Mobile has a reputation for making poor quality Android UIs (though they also have a few other OS projects going on; the EFL one and something else).

Also, Samsung-LSI generally makes better SoCs than the other guys (normally the bus works properly, etc). If you wanted to pick on them in a constructive way then you could say "I hope they clean up their mess in arch/arm..."

Re: Samsung Creates New File System F2FS For Linux, Good News For Android

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File systems are extremely fickle things requiring the utmost attention to detail and quality. There is an impedance mismatch between that and most people's image of Samsung-produced software.

I don't think that's a very reasonable thing to say. Samsung-LSI (which is the "Samsung" in question here) consistently makes better BSPs than, say, TI or nvidia (with their big WinCE-like layer inside the kernel). Samsung Mobile has a reputation for making poor quality Android UIs (though they also have a few other OS projects going on; the EFL one and something else). Also, Samsung-LSI generally makes better SoCs t…

I am not saying there are not people within the giant Samsung company capable of this. I am sure there are.

I am saying they will be working against a strong "Samsung is good at hardware, but not at software" reputation.

Re: Samsung Creates New File System F2FS For Linux, Good News For Android

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File systems are extremely fickle things requiring the utmost attention to detail and quality. There is an impedance mismatch between that and most people's image of Samsung-produced software.

I don't think that's a very reasonable thing to say. Samsung-LSI (which is the "Samsung" in question here) consistently makes better BSPs than, say, TI or nvidia (with their big WinCE-like layer inside the kernel). Samsung Mobile has a reputation for making poor quality Android UIs (though they also have a few other OS projects going on; the EFL one and something else). Also, Samsung-LSI generally makes better SoCs t…

You must not have looked at samsung's source for their recent flagship phones.

Re: Samsung Creates New File System F2FS For Linux, Good News For Android

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File systems are extremely fickle things requiring the utmost attention to detail and quality. There is an impedance mismatch between that and most people's image of Samsung-produced software.

Exactly - Apple and Microsoft have struggled mightily with file systems. I've never heard anyone put Samsung in their league in terms of software...

Re: Samsung Creates New File System F2FS For Linux, Good News For Android

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Hopefully they'll do a better job than last time they tried this: the galaxy S had a custom filesystem called RFS, in reality it was just fat32 with crappy journaling bolted on. It totally crippled the phone, causing a lengthly block every time a file was closed. It would also fight with the chips own wear levelling algorithms. It sucked. If you owned that phone and thought it sucked, with loads of UI lag, it was bec…

I owned that phone, it did suck.

The only good thing about that phone (besides the screen) is that it was nearly unbreakable and had a great custom Rom scene. Almost all of the roms replaced the file system.

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