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Migrating to Positron, a next-generation data science IDE for Python and R

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Re: Migrating to Positron, a next-generation data science IDE for Python and R

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Post by k310 »

Formerly RStudio

> RStudio (now Posit) was founded in 2009 with the vision of creating high quality open-source software for data scientists. We’ve grown exponentially over time but our culture remains unchanged. We invest heavily in open-source development, education, and the community with the goal of serving knowledge creators 100 years from now.

> We want Posit to serve a meaningful public purpose and we run the company for the benefit of our customers, employees, and the community at large. That’s why we’re designated as a Public Benefit Corporation. As a Certified B Corp, we must meet the highest verified standards of social and environmental performance, transparency, and accountability. Our directors and officers have a fiduciary responsibility to address social, economic, and environmental needs while still overseeing our business goals.

Re: Migrating to Positron, a next-generation data science IDE for Python and R

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Post by anewhnaccount2 »

k310 wrote: post #2

Formerly RStudio > RStudio (now Posit) was founded in 2009 with the vision of creating high quality open-source software for data scientists. We’ve grown exponentially over time but our culture remains unchanged. We invest heavily in open-source development, education, and the community with the goal of serving knowledge creators 100 years from now. > We want Posit to serve a meaningful public purpose and we run the…

So the main news is that they're giving up on develping an independent IDE and turning into another VS code fork. The loss of biodiversity and reliance on a no-so-reliable steward is mildly concerning.

Re: Migrating to Positron, a next-generation data science IDE for Python and R

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Post by cwnyth »

anewhnaccount2 wrote: post #3
k310 wrote: post #2

Formerly RStudio > RStudio (now Posit) was founded in 2009 with the vision of creating high quality open-source software for data scientists. We’ve grown exponentially over time but our culture remains unchanged. We invest heavily in open-source development, education, and the community with the goal of serving knowledge creators 100 years from now. > We want Posit to serve a meaningful public purpose and we run the…

So the main news is that they're giving up on develping an independent IDE and turning into another VS code fork. The loss of biodiversity and reliance on a no-so-reliable steward is mildly concerning.

They (reps? devs? I don't remember) have recently mentioned that they won't give up on RStudio, that it will stay separate from Positron. I really hope that stays true.

Re: Migrating to Positron, a next-generation data science IDE for Python and R

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Post by SuperNinKenDo »

Oof. That's a damn shame. I think languages and use-cases like this are the perfect place for purpose built IDE development. If even these guys are turning into a VS Code downstream that's just sad.

Coincidentally I was thinking of giving R another go, but honestly now... I'm good...

Re: Migrating to Positron, a next-generation data science IDE for Python and R

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Post by benrutter »

k310 wrote: post #2

Formerly RStudio > RStudio (now Posit) was founded in 2009 with the vision of creating high quality open-source software for data scientists. We’ve grown exponentially over time but our culture remains unchanged. We invest heavily in open-source development, education, and the community with the goal of serving knowledge creators 100 years from now. > We want Posit to serve a meaningful public purpose and we run the…

I'm not sure. wording like this:

> We anticipate many RStudio users will be curious about Positron.

Heavily implies it as a seperate thing that will continue to be maintained. They haven't said they're getting rid of support for Rstudio.

I think this is probably more that Posit have been trying to move more and more into the Python space, since that's where most data science is happenening. Rstudio has a great but is obviously very associated with R, so making a similarly intended project that is more explicit is supporting other languages isn't inherently a bad shout.

Re: Migrating to Positron, a next-generation data science IDE for Python and R

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Post by philipallstar »

benrutter wrote: post #7
k310 wrote: post #2

Formerly RStudio > RStudio (now Posit) was founded in 2009 with the vision of creating high quality open-source software for data scientists. We’ve grown exponentially over time but our culture remains unchanged. We invest heavily in open-source development, education, and the community with the goal of serving knowledge creators 100 years from now. > We want Posit to serve a meaningful public purpose and we run the…

I'm not sure. wording like this: > We anticipate many RStudio users will be curious about Positron. Heavily implies it as a seperate thing that will continue to be maintained. They haven't said they're getting rid of support for Rstudio. I think this is probably more that Posit have been trying to move more and more into the Python space, since that's where most data science is happenening. Rstudio has a great but is…

It will continue to be maintained, but if lots of R people move to Positron then RStudio's features will start to lag, and they'll eventually deprecate it.
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