'Nobody wants to come': What if the U.S. can no longer attract immigrant doctors
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Re: 'Nobody wants to come': What if the U.S. can no longer attract immigrant doctors
#2I suppose they could expand medical school admissions for Americans, why don’t they? It’s not for lack of talented people, the class size quotas are an archaic classist and partly racist way of thinking that have nothing to do with meritocracy, but instead are imposed to make sure that more undesirables don’t join the “elites” of society.
Re: 'Nobody wants to come': What if the U.S. can no longer attract immigrant doctors
#3Simple, US health care continues to fall behind other Industrial Countries.
But the big ask here is, what is wrong with the US educational System that forces people to avoid becoming medical professionals ?
Maybe when Trump is gone, this specific situation may revert back to pre-trump. But that does not mean education will be fixed.
Re: 'Nobody wants to come': What if the U.S. can no longer attract immigrant doctors
#4I suppose they could expand medical school admissions for Americans, why don’t they? It’s not for lack of talented people, the class size quotas are an archaic classist and partly racist way of thinking that have nothing to do with meritocracy, but instead are imposed to make sure that more undesirables don’t join the “elites” of society.
Some quick Googling surfaces the number of residency slots as being another limiting factor to medical school admissions. Apparently, federal funding caps the maximum number of residency slots which creates a bottleneck in the system.
It's most likely the case that there are multiple different bottlenecks. It's not just 1 person in a room somewhere saying "we need to make protect the elite!" - it's more likely just a lot of people continuing the status quo and few people fighting the change it.
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#5Simple, US health care continues to fall behind other Industrial Countries. But the big ask here is, what is wrong with the US educational System that forces people to avoid becoming medical professionals ? Maybe when Trump is gone, this specific situation may revert back to pre-trump. But that does not mean education will be fixed.
US health care continues to fall behind other Industrial Countries.
Can you provide evidence of this? The services are top notch, and over 90% of people have health insurance. Moreover, in other single payer systems (Canada, Poland) I keep hearing about months long wait for procedures until you go private/out-of-pocket.
Re: 'Nobody wants to come': What if the U.S. can no longer attract immigrant doctors
#6Simple, US health care continues to fall behind other Industrial Countries. But the big ask here is, what is wrong with the US educational System that forces people to avoid becoming medical professionals ? Maybe when Trump is gone, this specific situation may revert back to pre-trump. But that does not mean education will be fixed.
I think the issue is US _culture_, not education (although the two are intertwined). We had too many easy years where you could take a Jack Kerouac road trip for 5 years to find yourself and then settle down to the equivalent of a cushy 6 figure job just for being a man with a pulse. Now if you do that, you will come back to find all the cushy jobs filled, and you are unqualified for anything except bottom of barrel service industry jobs.
Today there is a lot more prerequisite grind to become a doctor that parents don't feel good about forcing on their kids. Five decades of movies villifying parents for pushing their kids too hard will do that.
Meanwhile, parents in/from China and India and Nigeria and many other places are more than willing to force their kids to grind to move up the economic ladder.
Re: 'Nobody wants to come': What if the U.S. can no longer attract immigrant doctors
#7Simple, US health care continues to fall behind other Industrial Countries. But the big ask here is, what is wrong with the US educational System that forces people to avoid becoming medical professionals ? Maybe when Trump is gone, this specific situation may revert back to pre-trump. But that does not mean education will be fixed.
US health care continues to fall behind other Industrial Countries. Can you provide evidence of this? The services are top notch, and over 90% of people have health insurance. Moreover, in other single payer systems (Canada, Poland) I keep hearing about months long wait for procedures until you go private/out-of-pocket.
Sorry, but as an outsider from one of those other countries you mention, I don't get what you mean by top notch? Top notch for whom? The people who can afford to pay out of pocket? Or those willing to do into debt to just get treatment? Whenever I see news from places like PBS News Hour, it's about some low wage or senior person struggling to just care for their medical needs or prescriptions.
I don't know my guy, your system isn't exactly top notch for most people - I don't think you need to look very hard to see that if you try.
Random examples:
- https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/OECD_hea... - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Life_exp...
There's something very very wrong here when your paying that much per capita and a lot of people are still struggling.
Re: 'Nobody wants to come': What if the U.S. can no longer attract immigrant doctors
#8Great news for Canada. Thanks we'll keep our doctors.
Bad news for New York, New Jersey, California, Maryland; or more aptly labelled democrat controlled states.
Probably the only republican state impacted will be florida, but they often buck trends like this. they'll keep their immigrant doctors.
Re: 'Nobody wants to come': What if the U.S. can no longer attract immigrant doctors
#9Simple, US health care continues to fall behind other Industrial Countries. But the big ask here is, what is wrong with the US educational System that forces people to avoid becoming medical professionals ? Maybe when Trump is gone, this specific situation may revert back to pre-trump. But that does not mean education will be fixed.
US health care continues to fall behind other Industrial Countries. Can you provide evidence of this? The services are top notch, and over 90% of people have health insurance. Moreover, in other single payer systems (Canada, Poland) I keep hearing about months long wait for procedures until you go private/out-of-pocket.
The unique thing about the US healthcare system is that care is directly proportional to how much money you can spend on it. So as a top spender, yes the care is great. Though realistically we should look at the system as a whole for all people it "covers". Looking at infant mortality rate, life expectancy, etc, for the average person, the picture is bleak; the US is shockingly bad.
Re: 'Nobody wants to come': What if the U.S. can no longer attract immigrant doctors
#10Great news for Canada. Thanks we'll keep our doctors. Bad news for New York, New Jersey, California, Maryland; or more aptly labelled democrat controlled states. Probably the only republican state impacted will be florida, but they often buck trends like this. they'll keep their immigrant doctors.
The article states rural areas tend to be served by a higher proportion of immigrant doctors. The densely populated coasts will probably be fine - the higher salaries will continue to attract US-born and limited immigrant doctors.