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Windows president addresses current state of Windows 11 after AI backlash

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Re: Windows president addresses current state of Windows 11 after AI backlash

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Windows is solid under the hood, but the UI/UX is crap and has gotten progressively worse over the years

MacOS isn't perfect either, but it is so much better in not trying to upsell you at every single opportunity

Just let me use my fucking computer lol

Re: Windows president addresses current state of Windows 11 after AI backlash

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post #2

Windows is solid under the hood, but the UI/UX is crap and has gotten progressively worse over the years MacOS isn't perfect either, but it is so much better in not trying to upsell you at every single opportunity Just let me use my fucking computer lol

I don't think even this is true any more.

Windows used to have a solid technical foundation and was working on improving longstanding historical warts (font processing in the kernel, what could go wrong?), regardless of how off the rails the end user experience was getting.

Now, Windows seems to be rotting from every direction. The user experience is going straight for minmaxing data harvesting and antipatterns, and the technical underbelly is showing horrible problems getting into releases. [1][2], to pick a couple recent examples.

[1] - https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows/windows-11-...

[2] - https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/october-...

Re: Windows president addresses current state of Windows 11 after AI backlash

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post #2

Windows is solid under the hood, but the UI/UX is crap and has gotten progressively worse over the years MacOS isn't perfect either, but it is so much better in not trying to upsell you at every single opportunity Just let me use my fucking computer lol

the kernel might still be good but the userland is just awful in every way imaginable

they have even managed to screw up file explorer and the start menu

it's so slow I can see it render the interface, like watching compuserve render a webpage on a 2400 bad modem

(high end i9 box)

I bet it's not long until React ends up in the kernel too

Re: Windows president addresses current state of Windows 11 after AI backlash

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post #2

Windows is solid under the hood, but the UI/UX is crap and has gotten progressively worse over the years MacOS isn't perfect either, but it is so much better in not trying to upsell you at every single opportunity Just let me use my fucking computer lol

Exactly this. I use a Macbook for my day to day computing, programming, and general internet use. I have a Windows 11 gaming rig. Well, it turns out Hades 2 runs great on my macbook and that's been my game as of late, so the desktop hasn't been powered on in weeks. I just don't like Windows 11, and Linux just isn't there yet for my mixed DPI monitor setup (though I hear is getting close), or VR titles just yet.

Re: Windows president addresses current state of Windows 11 after AI backlash

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The very point that Microsoft devs need two machines in their work, one to do dew stuff, another - with its own special flavor of locked down windows - to touch anything that is even remotely similar to prod (including staging with no real data) says a lot about Microsoft stance on developers and power users ..

Re: Windows president addresses current state of Windows 11 after AI backlash

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The very point that Microsoft devs need two machines in their work, one to do dew stuff, another - with its own special flavor of locked down windows - to touch anything that is even remotely similar to prod (including staging with no real data) says a lot about Microsoft stance on developers and power users ..

Where can I find more information about this? I had never heard that they use two computers like that before.

Re: Windows president addresses current state of Windows 11 after AI backlash

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post #4
post #2

Windows is solid under the hood, but the UI/UX is crap and has gotten progressively worse over the years MacOS isn't perfect either, but it is so much better in not trying to upsell you at every single opportunity Just let me use my fucking computer lol

the kernel might still be good but the userland is just awful in every way imaginable they have even managed to screw up file explorer and the start menu it's so slow I can see it render the interface, like watching compuserve render a webpage on a 2400 bad modem (high end i9 box) I bet it's not long until React ends up in the kernel too

> the kernel might still be good but the userland is just awful in every way imaginable

The Windows kernel is also falling behind. Linux is considerably faster for a wide variety of workloads, so much so that if you're CPU limited at all, moving from Windows to Linux can net you an improvement similar to moving up a CPU generation.

Re: Windows president addresses current state of Windows 11 after AI backlash

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Unfortunately I kind of doubt it, although Windows is still what I get to use, not paying Apple tax and Tahoe isn't great either, and I have better things to do than fine tuning Linux installations, even on laptops sold with it pre-installed like my old Asus netbook.

Lets see in practice how much they are actually listening.

Now, this would be a great opportunity to actually get stuff like Dell XPS with Ubuntu on PC stores.

Re: Windows president addresses current state of Windows 11 after AI backlash

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post #2

Windows is solid under the hood, but the UI/UX is crap and has gotten progressively worse over the years MacOS isn't perfect either, but it is so much better in not trying to upsell you at every single opportunity Just let me use my fucking computer lol

the kernel might still be good but the userland is just awful in every way imaginable they have even managed to screw up file explorer and the start menu it's so slow I can see it render the interface, like watching compuserve render a webpage on a 2400 bad modem (high end i9 box) I bet it's not long until React ends up in the kernel too

A side effect of the tragic decision to now use WinUI on Explorer.
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