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New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

#1
There's been a big spike in new users the last couple days. Unfortunately it's been visible not only in the traffic stats but in the character of the comment threads.

New users: we'd appreciate it if you'd please read the site guidelines before commenting. Most importantly, the principle that you shouldn't say anything in a comment that you wouldn't say to someone's face.

http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Hacker News is an experiment. We're trying to see whether by asking people to be civil we can avoid the kind of nastiness that anonymity breeds by default. The experiment has worked so far. And while the new users may not realize it, this is why they're here. People like it here because one can have a civil conversation.

The principle that you shouldn't say things you wouldn't say to someone's face means you can't express yourself the way you might be used to doing on Reddit or Slashdot. This, for example, would not stand out on either of those sites,

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=459250

but it's not cool here.

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

#5
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Duplicate submission. See: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=219081 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=133453

Um... Did you look at who made this submission? :)

Oddly enough, a thread like this was front-paged just a few days ago, but was killed by the editors.

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

#6
post #2

Duplicate submission. See: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=219081 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=133453

Um... Did you look at who made this submission? :)

It wouldn't matter. I think some dupes are required.

When you say "take care" to somebody it's not like you think they won't take care of themselves. But if you stop saying it altogether, I bet it will harm the basis of civility.

I vaguely recall an experiment done on a classroom where everybody was required to say hi every morning. Soon after the entire class had a great spirit. I don't recall when, where, or who; if somebody does, please say.

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

#10
I'd personally like to say "Please keep HN civil, free from trolling, and intellectual." This site has been a great resource - and that's at least partially because the tone of the vast majority of the community here is pretty serious.

I have an account on reddit as well, and my tone over there is different than my tone here. On reddit I make a decent amount of off-the-cuff remarks, occasionally troll a bit, participate in pun threads, and also have a decent amount of intelligent debate and discussion. Here I keep my mouth (fingers?) shut (stoppped?) unless I have something to say, because that's the vibe here.

Here, I'm more likely to vote people up who have a differing opinion on an issue, or even if they have an opinion that offends me, if they are able of stating and defending their position logically. On reddit, I'd probably just skim over their post.

Etc.

The tone of this site has gotten a little lighter since the first time I was here, and it seems to have gotten a lot more of a focus on the business side of things, which is fine - but if people aren't careful, the site will devolve into yet another pick-your-favorite-site-here.

So yeah. Please keep HN grown-up. It's nice to see mostly responsible discussion happening on a site like this, and I hope it continues to happen.

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