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Re: Stripe partners with Chilling Effects

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Seems like a wise decision. First I've heard of Chilling Effects and it sounds interesting. Seems like an opportunity there for someone to make it international as it is very US-specific. Calling all IP lawyers!

Stripe is now in Canada, so maybe OpenMedia.ca?

Re: Stripe partners with Chilling Effects

#3
This is great news.

> we’re adding a clause that commits us (when possible) to first notify the user if we’re legally compelled by a litigant or government to disclose a user’s private information

The only additional thing I would like to see is an additional commitment to use all legal means to fight gag orders when they're present.

Re: Stripe partners with Chilling Effects

#4
This is fantastic news! For too long have larger companies used the looming threat of legal action to discourage legitimate competition from smaller companies. I'd never heard of Chilling Effects before this, but now I'm tempted to put all of the C&D's we've collected (and will continue to collect) into it.

Re: Stripe partners with Chilling Effects

#5

This is fantastic news! For too long have larger companies used the looming threat of legal action to discourage legitimate competition from smaller companies. I'd never heard of Chilling Effects before this, but now I'm tempted to put all of the C&D's we've collected (and will continue to collect) into it.

Please do. The world would better if it was a standard practice for everyone.

Re: Stripe partners with Chilling Effects

#6

This is great news. > we’re adding a clause that commits us (when possible) to first notify the user if we’re legally compelled by a litigant or government to disclose a user’s private information The only additional thing I would like to see is an additional commitment to use all legal means to fight gag orders when they're present.

Do you happen to know what these means are? For a national security letter my understanding is that the company can't tell anyone and for other lesser gag orders it might be impossible to even contact the EFF for assistance.

Re: Stripe partners with Chilling Effects

#8

This is fantastic news! For too long have larger companies used the looming threat of legal action to discourage legitimate competition from smaller companies. I'd never heard of Chilling Effects before this, but now I'm tempted to put all of the C&D's we've collected (and will continue to collect) into it.

Google seems to relay the majority of their legal notices there for many years now [1]. That said, the site didn't change at all in those years, either. Just an information trove rotting away.

[1] You can try searching for "Amy Weber" on Google (random query I pulled from one of the complaints, semi-nsfw). For me, it shows multiple links to CE with respective DMCA-esque requests made to german governmental bodies. You aren't affected by those in the USA, but theres a DMCA one, too.

Re: Stripe partners with Chilling Effects

#9

This is great news. > we’re adding a clause that commits us (when possible) to first notify the user if we’re legally compelled by a litigant or government to disclose a user’s private information The only additional thing I would like to see is an additional commitment to use all legal means to fight gag orders when they're present.

Do you happen to know what these means are? For a national security letter my understanding is that the company can't tell anyone and for other lesser gag orders it might be impossible to even contact the EFF for assistance.

In the case of a national security letter, you have to sue the U.S. government. It's rare, but possible. The Internet Archive did it, and won.

http://archive.org/post/192021/fbi-gag-order-against-the-int...

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