Bullying Is Not Innovation
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Bullying Is Not Innovation
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Re: Bullying Is Not Innovation
#2I don’t see how Amazon or anyone else can prevent AI agents from acting on someone’s behalf. Can they prevent me from using the keyboard or mouse I like? What about the browser I like? What about screen readers? Isn’t trying to ban use of an AI tool a potential violation of disability law? What if I need help from one of these tools to perform actions on my behalf? Or for that matter, isn’t this an antitrust issue - with companies trying to control everything with unreasonable demands?
Note that the broken patent system is a part of the abuse enablement. Companies like Amazon rack up huge portfolios of mostly frivolous patents for this purpose. They may claim they only use them defensively. But the reality is if you cross them in any way, they can then “defensively” make your life miserable by abusing the law through the broken patent system. For example if a company like Amazon copies your innovative product, you can’t practically go after them, because they hold all sorts of leverage through the patent system.
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#3Related to this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45814461
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#4I don’t see how Amazon or anyone else can prevent AI agents from acting on someone’s behalf. Can they prevent me from using the keyboard or mouse I like? What about the browser I like? What about screen readers? Isn’t trying to ban use of an AI tool a potential violation of disability law? What if I need help from one of these tools to perform actions on my behalf? Or for that matter, isn’t this an antitrust issue -…
This is not about patent or copyright. Amazon has sent them a C&D, and can legally choose to terminate Perplexity's access to their services if they desire, the same way they can block scrapers.
Now, maybe that is monopoly abuse. But monopoly abuse isn't taken seriously in America, so Perplexity's options are limited.
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#5The reason Amazon doesn’t want AI involved is because then AI could skip Amazon altogether in the future and checkout directly on seller’s websites.
It’s actually the idea behind the decentralized marketplace I’m building. It uses MCP-UI to bring the whole storefront and checkout into the chat.
I’m keeping a close eye on e-commerce and AI and the recent deal Paypal made with OpenAI and Amazon getting aggressive, it’s clear they want to make AI powered commerce a walled garden.
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#6No word on if their agent actually does the right thing or if it's causing higher than normal return rates
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#7Agentic browsers raise a lot of questions that were hanging there even before LLMs.
Can I ask my partner to buy a product on Amazon? Can I ask my personal assistant to buy a product on Amazon? Can I hire a contractor to buy products on Amazon? Can I communicate with a contractor via API to direct them what products to buy? What if there is no human on the other end and its an LLM?
Same issue with LinkedIn. I know execs who have assistants running their socials. Is this legal?
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#8I don’t see how Amazon or anyone else can prevent AI agents from acting on someone’s behalf. Can they prevent me from using the keyboard or mouse I like? What about the browser I like? What about screen readers? Isn’t trying to ban use of an AI tool a potential violation of disability law? What if I need help from one of these tools to perform actions on my behalf? Or for that matter, isn’t this an antitrust issue -…
If you were using their site in a way they felt violated their ToS or affected their business, they absolutely can and would ban you in much the same way from using it. You're conflating entirely separate things.
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#9Agentic browsers raise a lot of questions that were hanging there even before LLMs. Can I ask my partner to buy a product on Amazon? Can I ask my personal assistant to buy a product on Amazon? Can I hire a contractor to buy products on Amazon? Can I communicate with a contractor via API to direct them what products to buy? What if there is no human on the other end and its an LLM? Same issue with LinkedIn. I know exe…
Perplexity should use this argument.
Re: Bullying Is Not Innovation
#10Agentic browsers raise a lot of questions that were hanging there even before LLMs. Can I ask my partner to buy a product on Amazon? Can I ask my personal assistant to buy a product on Amazon? Can I hire a contractor to buy products on Amazon? Can I communicate with a contractor via API to direct them what products to buy? What if there is no human on the other end and its an LLM? Same issue with LinkedIn. I know exe…
You've been spamming this in a few threads.
A private business can 100% refuse service to you. Examples with regards to "delegation":
- If you come in using a form of non-cash payment that doesn't belong to you.
- If you're purchasing a car, and are filling out paperwork under someone else's name. FYI, you can buy cars on Amazon.com.
- If you attempt to pick-up a pre-order or an item earmarked for someone else.
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Of course some businesses are more or less restrictive base on fraud chance, yada yada, but you get the idea. You're not being oppressed. Go shop elsewhere.