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Adobe Air surpasses 100 Million installations

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Re: Adobe Air surpasses 100 Million installations

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Post by pclark »

I still hate Air. Here's why:

Of all the companies, do we really want Adobe to be the gate keeper of yet another format? Isn't PDF and Flash enough?

Air encourages bad User Interfaces. One UI across multiple platforms leads to horrible, non-standard interfaces on all platforms.

Re: Adobe Air surpasses 100 Million installations

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Post by satyajit »

pclark wrote: post #2

I still hate Air. Here's why: Of all the companies, do we really want Adobe to be the gate keeper of yet another format? Isn't PDF and Flash enough? Air encourages bad User Interfaces. One UI across multiple platforms leads to horrible, non-standard interfaces on all platforms.

Yet another format? They are just churning out yet another app on the same flash format, that's been installed on almost over 98% of desktops all over the world! So what's wrong? And if you have used some specific apps like eBay Desktop on Air, it rocks, esp if you are a power eBay user. Air is a good thing, I just hope that they learn from their PDF/Acrobat mistakes and do not let Air/Flash go down that path!

Re: Adobe Air surpasses 100 Million installations

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Post by pclark »

satyajit wrote: post #3
pclark wrote: post #2

I still hate Air. Here's why: Of all the companies, do we really want Adobe to be the gate keeper of yet another format? Isn't PDF and Flash enough? Air encourages bad User Interfaces. One UI across multiple platforms leads to horrible, non-standard interfaces on all platforms.

Yet another format? They are just churning out yet another app on the same flash format, that's been installed on almost over 98% of desktops all over the world! So what's wrong? And if you have used some specific apps like eBay Desktop on Air, it rocks, esp if you are a power eBay user. Air is a good thing, I just hope that they learn from their PDF/Acrobat mistakes and do not let Air/Flash go down that path!

erm, Air apps require Adobe Air -- not Adobe Flash.

Re: Adobe Air surpasses 100 Million installations

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Post by ThomPete »

pclark, well you will have a hard time finding a framework that is more fitted for online/offline services, that actually allows you to create a proper UX and design experience and that is so easy to get going with. No other crossbrowser frameworks work as well as this IMHO

Re: Adobe Air surpasses 100 Million installations

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Post by pclark »

ThomPete wrote: post #5

pclark, well you will have a hard time finding a framework that is more fitted for online/offline services, that actually allows you to create a proper UX and design experience and that is so easy to get going with. No other crossbrowser frameworks work as well as this IMHO

for a bloody good reason -- it shouldn't be done.

The solution? Web Apps + Google Gears. Then it'll run on any OS, even iPhones -- and can be offline. You have the added ability of creating a "nice" UI that users will expect - if my mother was to open an Adobe Air, she'd be confused as hell. Its neither a web app, nor a native app.

Don't make web apps look like desktop apps

Always make desktop apps look like their native OS. If you can't do this, just make a freaking web app.

Re: Adobe Air surpasses 100 Million installations

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Post by dantheman »

pclark wrote: post #4
satyajit wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet another format? They are just churning out yet another app on the same flash format, that's been installed on almost over 98% of desktops all over the world! So what's wrong? And if you have used some specific apps like eBay Desktop on Air, it rocks, esp if you are a power eBay user. Air is a good thing, I just hope that they learn from their PDF/Acrobat mistakes and do not let Air/Flash go down that path!

erm, Air apps require Adobe Air -- not Adobe Flash.

erm, Air apps are basically flash apps with a slightly more powerful api and framework to run them offline.

Re: Adobe Air surpasses 100 Million installations

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Post by ThomPete »

It's not a web app it's a desktop app.

You are creating a pseudo problem. You mother wouldn't even know it was an air app most probably.

I don't know what makes you think that those two paradigmes shouldn't merge. Nothing at all dictates that that shouldn't happen.

Re: Adobe Air surpasses 100 Million installations

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Post by dantheman »

pclark wrote: post #6
ThomPete wrote: post #5

pclark, well you will have a hard time finding a framework that is more fitted for online/offline services, that actually allows you to create a proper UX and design experience and that is so easy to get going with. No other crossbrowser frameworks work as well as this IMHO

for a bloody good reason -- it shouldn't be done. The solution? Web Apps + Google Gears. Then it'll run on any OS, even iPhones -- and can be offline. You have the added ability of creating a "nice" UI that users will expect - if my mother was to open an Adobe Air, she'd be confused as hell. Its neither a web app, nor a native app. Don't make web apps look like desktop apps Always make desktop apps look like their na…

I'm going to have to disagree, an AIR application is no less a native application than a java program. There is no need for a network connection for it to run.
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