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Everything you need to know about California’s SB 79

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It could take up to 5 years to come into full effect, from my skim of the article. So, as revolutions in housing go, this is slow-burn.

Needed, won't fix housing next month or even next year.

Sometimes I wonder if a state went out and bought the input supply stocks (wood, particleboard, roofing materials) and sold them below cost at the longer base-line price, but exclusively to builders constructing homes, if they could prevent a grey market re-sale to the less housing oriented market. The problem with trying to drag supply prices back down is making secondary markets between your rate, and the market rate.

I am not believing there is an actual shortage worldwide of either construction grade lumber, or other inputs: Its shipping related, its logjams backing up because .. well .. the wheels fell off at the start of 2020 and we haven't got momentum back up.

Oh right. Ships. So maybe the state has to buy ships.. which demands steel.. which is hard to get right now...

Re: Everything you need to know about California’s SB 79

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post #2

It could take up to 5 years to come into full effect, from my skim of the article. So, as revolutions in housing go, this is slow-burn. Needed, won't fix housing next month or even next year. Sometimes I wonder if a state went out and bought the input supply stocks (wood, particleboard, roofing materials) and sold them below cost at the longer base-line price, but exclusively to builders constructing homes, if they c…

The California housing crisis is a result of restrictive local policy preventing housing starts, not a shortage of materials.

Re: Everything you need to know about California’s SB 79

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SB79 is a great step forward for California. Hopefully other states implement similar (and more aggressive) bills in their states. My dream world would see an elimination of local zoning as we do in the US, and a move to a zoning system more like the Japanese use. I would also love to see states adopt a Land-Value Tax to help incentivize development. Similar to SB79 I have always hoped for a bill that enforced something like within 1 mile of a school, all roads need to have cross walks, lights, and side walks to help kick start walkability in the US.

Re: Everything you need to know about California’s SB 79

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post #2

It could take up to 5 years to come into full effect, from my skim of the article. So, as revolutions in housing go, this is slow-burn. Needed, won't fix housing next month or even next year. Sometimes I wonder if a state went out and bought the input supply stocks (wood, particleboard, roofing materials) and sold them below cost at the longer base-line price, but exclusively to builders constructing homes, if they c…

The California housing crisis is a result of restrictive local policy preventing housing starts, not a shortage of materials.

These are not hard things to understand or solve, it's just that the majority of people don't want to understand them or face reality and the politicians will always serve up these kinds of con artist lies to placate people.

You cannot add ~60 million foreign national people to the US population in the last 25 years without severely impacting the housing situation when the USA has only built 1.1 million housing units on average over that period; most of those being locked into high prices due to the massive inflation over that time.

What makes it even worse is this obsession with both concentrating populations and jobs in urban centers, while at the same time being concerned with climate change and environmental protection. They are mutually exclusive things. This is an iron triangle issue, you can only have two of three things: affordable housing, immigration, climate/environment protection.

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post #2

It could take up to 5 years to come into full effect, from my skim of the article. So, as revolutions in housing go, this is slow-burn. Needed, won't fix housing next month or even next year. Sometimes I wonder if a state went out and bought the input supply stocks (wood, particleboard, roofing materials) and sold them below cost at the longer base-line price, but exclusively to builders constructing homes, if they c…

Multifamily housing developments take years to plan and build anyway, especially in California and especially in these urban areas.

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It could take up to 5 years to come into full effect, from my skim of the article. So, as revolutions in housing go, this is slow-burn. Needed, won't fix housing next month or even next year. Sometimes I wonder if a state went out and bought the input supply stocks (wood, particleboard, roofing materials) and sold them below cost at the longer base-line price, but exclusively to builders constructing homes, if they c…

The California housing crisis is a result of restrictive local policy preventing housing starts, not a shortage of materials.

Aren't there a lot of people in the Palisades still waiting for permits to rebuild from the fires almost a year ago?

It's utterly absurd looking from the outside that officials are claiming the permits are being "fast tracked" even now.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The California housing crisis is a result of restrictive local policy preventing housing starts, not a shortage of materials.

These are not hard things to understand or solve, it's just that the majority of people don't want to understand them or face reality and the politicians will always serve up these kinds of con artist lies to placate people. You cannot add ~60 million foreign national people to the US population in the last 25 years without severely impacting the housing situation when the USA has only built 1.1 million housing units…

I don't understand why this is a iron triangle situation.

Higher density housing -- and a lot of it -- solves for all three, right? If not, why not?

Re: Everything you need to know about California’s SB 79

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The California housing crisis is a result of restrictive local policy preventing housing starts, not a shortage of materials.

These are not hard things to understand or solve, it's just that the majority of people don't want to understand them or face reality and the politicians will always serve up these kinds of con artist lies to placate people. You cannot add ~60 million foreign national people to the US population in the last 25 years without severely impacting the housing situation when the USA has only built 1.1 million housing units…

I don’t understand, why is urban concentration anathema to environmental protection? It seems instead to be in service of it?
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