Vite+ – Unified toolchain for the web
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Vite+ – Unified toolchain for the web
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Re: Vite+ – Unified toolchain for the web
#2The Unified toolchain is an extremely ambitious project. when Rome announced their plan for unified toolchain, I expected it to fail as the next HN reader. and turned out to be right.
Bun is also attempting it. Thye have made tremendous progress but they are also competing against node, and thus I don't expect to for bun to go mainstream.
However, despite the difficulties, I strongly believe that Vite+ can achieve it.
I strongly recommend all readers here to watch Vite documentary[0] that got released less than a day ago for vite's history and bacground of Vite+
Re: Vite+ – Unified toolchain for the web
#3I guess this is similar to what Astral is doing on the Python side?
As far as Astral goes, so far they've distributed all the tooling separately but it seems they might be going towards consolidation as well.
Re: Vite+ – Unified toolchain for the web
#4> Built for growing teams tired of configuring, patching, and replacing their JavaScript tooling stack.
Ah, great, another Javascript tooling stack! Let's jump on board! I'll get straight to configuring, replacing and patching as soon as possible. Or maybe let's just don't. I'm tired, Boss.
Re: Vite+ – Unified toolchain for the web
#5The Unified toolchain is an extremely ambitious project. when Rome announced their plan for unified toolchain, I expected it to fail as the next HN reader. and turned out to be right. Bun is also attempting it. Thye have made tremendous progress but they are also competing against node, and thus I don't expect to for bun to go mainstream. However, despite the difficulties, I strongly believe that Vite+ can achieve it…
Well, Rome failed because they run out of money while the project weren't finished yet. While Vite+ seems to have most of the things done already, so I'd consider it a success for now, what is left to see if that the companies using Vite already are willing to pay for Vite+.
Re: Vite+ – Unified toolchain for the web
#6Ehhhhh... what does this mean for the open source versions of all these libs? You could interpret some of the graphs as vite oss isn't getting rolldown. That would be disappointing but still okay.
Re: Vite+ – Unified toolchain for the web
#7Ehhhhh... what does this mean for the open source versions of all these libs? You could interpret some of the graphs as vite oss isn't getting rolldown. That would be disappointing but still okay.
> You could interpret some of the graphs as vite oss isn't getting rolldown
Vite already has rolldown support in the current version, it's just in alpha/test stage.
Re: Vite+ – Unified toolchain for the web
#8> Built for growing teams tired of configuring, patching, and replacing their JavaScript tooling stack. Ah, great, another Javascript tooling stack! Let's jump on board! I'll get straight to configuring, replacing and patching as soon as possible. Or maybe let's just don't. I'm tired, Boss.
This cynicism is several years out of date.
The current dominant toolchain has been very stable for years now, and is much better than the mess of Webpack/Rollup/Brunch/Grunt/Gulp/Bower/Browserify/Parcel/Snowpack/Turbopack/Babel/etc/etc.
The only problem is that NOW there are too many separate different tools that aren't bundlers, so in addition to Vite one also has to configure Prettier, Eslint, Vitest, Typescript, Husky, Lint-Staged, Playwright, DotEnv, what else?
A unified toolchain might not replace each and every tool above, but it will simplify a lot of this process.
It will also simplify migrating between tools that it doesn't intend to replace, like migrating between Typescript and Typescript-Go. Etc.
This is already the reality in Go, Rust and other languages.
Re: Vite+ – Unified toolchain for the web
#9just one more layer of tooling bro, just one more layer
Re: Vite+ – Unified toolchain for the web
#10The Unified toolchain is an extremely ambitious project. when Rome announced their plan for unified toolchain, I expected it to fail as the next HN reader. and turned out to be right. Bun is also attempting it. Thye have made tremendous progress but they are also competing against node, and thus I don't expect to for bun to go mainstream. However, despite the difficulties, I strongly believe that Vite+ can achieve it…
Well, Rome failed because they run out of money while the project weren't finished yet. While Vite+ seems to have most of the things done already, so I'd consider it a success for now, what is left to see if that the companies using Vite already are willing to pay for Vite+.
> "Rome failed because they run out of money"
The sestertius isn't what it used to be.