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Hacking the Humane AI Pin

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Re: Hacking the Humane AI Pin

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Ooh, this is cool. The Humane was a cool form factor, and I always thought that hand laser projection thing looked awesome. Upshot is the author is a ninja and is building an open assistant platform on the pin, which first requires that the old pins be jailbroken. Significant (successful) effort ensues.

Re: Hacking the Humane AI Pin

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post #2

Ooh, this is cool. The Humane was a cool form factor, and I always thought that hand laser projection thing looked awesome. Upshot is the author is a ninja and is building an open assistant platform on the pin, which first requires that the old pins be jailbroken. Significant (successful) effort ensues.

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Re: Hacking the Humane AI Pin

#4
Wow this is such a cool hack. It seemed like a simple "known vuln" situation but there was so much more that had to be figured out! I wish I had one of these just to play with the open stack.

Re: Hacking the Humane AI Pin

#5
I'm strangely comforted by the fact that OP had to work so hard to get in.

I was expecting that the pin software would be IoT-standard terrible, so it was a pleasant surprise to see that the Humane team did their best to use SELinux and lock it down.

No knock on them for not getting it 100% right here, and besides, it's always been the case that once an attacker has physical access they will eventually get in.

Re: Hacking the Humane AI Pin

#6

I'm strangely comforted by the fact that OP had to work so hard to get in. I was expecting that the pin software would be IoT-standard terrible, so it was a pleasant surprise to see that the Humane team did their best to use SELinux and lock it down. No knock on them for not getting it 100% right here, and besides, it's always been the case that once an attacker has physical access they will eventually get in.

I definitely agree. Humane cared about physical device security a lot and it really shows with how they built out the firmware.

Re: Hacking the Humane AI Pin

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I'm strangely comforted by the fact that OP had to work so hard to get in. I was expecting that the pin software would be IoT-standard terrible, so it was a pleasant surprise to see that the Humane team did their best to use SELinux and lock it down. No knock on them for not getting it 100% right here, and besides, it's always been the case that once an attacker has physical access they will eventually get in.

Using a vulnerability not found until after the software stopped being maintained feels a bit like cheating :)

Re: Hacking the Humane AI Pin

#8
They are cool but both Humane pin and the Rabbit R1 products were largely flops and failures. I do hope in the next 10-20 years this same tech will advance and actually work and be cool.

Re: Hacking the Humane AI Pin

#9

I'm strangely comforted by the fact that OP had to work so hard to get in. I was expecting that the pin software would be IoT-standard terrible, so it was a pleasant surprise to see that the Humane team did their best to use SELinux and lock it down. No knock on them for not getting it 100% right here, and besides, it's always been the case that once an attacker has physical access they will eventually get in.

Using a vulnerability not found until after the software stopped being maintained feels a bit like cheating :)

It would, but the vulnerability was found and patched in mainline Android a few months after the device came out, but with over half a year until support was dropped. We obviously can't expect them to have kept the OS up to date, especially given the pressure they were under, but applying security patches seems very reasonable.

Re: Hacking the Humane AI Pin

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post #8

They are cool but both Humane pin and the Rabbit R1 products were largely flops and failures. I do hope in the next 10-20 years this same tech will advance and actually work and be cool.

The actual idea itself seems flawed rather than just the implementation. Ordering an uber on your phone and seeing where it is on the map is always going to be easier than trying to do it through voice and a hand projector.

And the rabbit was just an android app bundled with a low end phone.

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