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Taiwan pressured to move 50% of chip production to US or lose protection

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Re: Taiwan pressured to move 50% of chip production to US or lose protection

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It’s very literally the only thing providing them protection in the first place. They have something the US can not lose and can not replace.

What on earth do you think is going to happen when you suddenly help them not rely on your infrastructure anymore.

There is no way in hell you could ever trust Trump to pick up the phone if you needed help. This is blackmail from a position of weakness from the US here.

Re: Taiwan pressured to move 50% of chip production to US or lose protection

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I feel this WSJ exclusive properly contextualizes the US commerce secretary's threat to abandon an ally:

https://www.wsj.com/world/china/trump-xi-talks-china-taiwan-... ("Xi Is Chasing Huge Concession From Trump: Opposing Taiwan Independence" (2 days ago))

In the 20th century, opposition to totalitarianism in the West was idealistic; in the US it's now transactional. US leadership is signalling Chinese annexation of Taiwan is no longer a red line; it's something to be negotiated—something that Taiwan is expected to negotiate with the US (and perhaps Xi is also invited to negotiate?)

Re: Taiwan pressured to move 50% of chip production to US or lose protection

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post #2

It’s very literally the only thing providing them protection in the first place. They have something the US can not lose and can not replace. What on earth do you think is going to happen when you suddenly help them not rely on your infrastructure anymore. There is no way in hell you could ever trust Trump to pick up the phone if you needed help. This is blackmail from a position of weakness from the US here.

Yes, the "or else" appears to be we will leave you at the mercy of China and potentially loose 100% of the chips which are so important to us. Is this just political theatre for home consumption?

Re: Taiwan pressured to move 50% of chip production to US or lose protection

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post #4
post #2

It’s very literally the only thing providing them protection in the first place. They have something the US can not lose and can not replace. What on earth do you think is going to happen when you suddenly help them not rely on your infrastructure anymore. There is no way in hell you could ever trust Trump to pick up the phone if you needed help. This is blackmail from a position of weakness from the US here.

Yes, the "or else" appears to be we will leave you at the mercy of China and potentially loose 100% of the chips which are so important to us. Is this just political theatre for home consumption?

It is amazing the article fails to point out, but perhaps not so in the current climate of fear.

Re: Taiwan pressured to move 50% of chip production to US or lose protection

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post #2

It’s very literally the only thing providing them protection in the first place. They have something the US can not lose and can not replace. What on earth do you think is going to happen when you suddenly help them not rely on your infrastructure anymore. There is no way in hell you could ever trust Trump to pick up the phone if you needed help. This is blackmail from a position of weakness from the US here.

Yes, the "or else" appears to be we will leave you at the mercy of China and potentially loose 100% of the chips which are so important to us. Is this just political theatre for home consumption?

They seem to believe Intel is a drop-in domestic replacement for TSMC, or can be made so with enough money injected. This would hand the only place actually capable of making these advanced chips today directly to China.

Re: Taiwan pressured to move 50% of chip production to US or lose protection

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I feel this WSJ exclusive properly contextualizes the US commerce secretary's threat to abandon an ally: https://www.wsj.com/world/china/trump-xi-talks-china-taiwan-... ( "Xi Is Chasing Huge Concession From Trump: Opposing Taiwan Independence" (2 days ago)) In the 20th century, opposition to totalitarianism in the West was idealistic; in the US it's now transactional. US leadership is signalling Chinese annexation of…

Trump is transactional. We just just transactional now as a country because Trump is calling all the shots while Congress and the courts are mostly ineffective in doing anything about that.
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