An open letter calling for a hard fork of Rails to remove DHH's influence
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Re: An open letter calling for a hard fork of Rails to remove DHH's influence
#2> GitHub issues are disabled on this repo to keep it on-topic and reduce argumentative discussions that go nowhere. Feel free to discuss this in all the usual places though.
I get that GitHub Issues for controversial repos tends to invite trolls, but "discuss this in all the usual places" guarantees there will be no traction.
Re: An open letter calling for a hard fork of Rails to remove DHH's influence
#3From the linked DHH writing: “There's absolutely nothing racist or xenophobic in saying that Denmark is primarily a country for the Danes, Britain primarily a united kingdom for the Brits, and Japan primarily a set of islands for the Japanese.”
To clarify, who are the Brits exactly? Do the Irish, Scottish, and Welsh count, and who gets to say that? Also, the Ainu were there before the Japanese.
Re: An open letter calling for a hard fork of Rails to remove DHH's influence
#4As earlier, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45365433,
Title is: Plan Vert - an open letter to the Rails Core team and Ruby community
Re: An open letter calling for a hard fork of Rails to remove DHH's influence
#5From the linked DHH writing: “There's absolutely nothing racist or xenophobic in saying that Denmark is primarily a country for the Danes, Britain primarily a united kingdom for the Brits, and Japan primarily a set of islands for the Japanese.” To clarify, who are the Brits exactly? Do the Irish, Scottish, and Welsh count, and who gets to say that? Also, the Ainu were there before the Japanese.
Yeah, I do think there are some interesting questions in this area, but the idea that a country is primarily a country for X is hugely problematic and racist in many parts of the world, and has led to countless civil wars. The most obvious one being “Israel is primarily a country for Israelis.”
But one of the legacies of colonialism is the Middle East and Africa being carved up in lines that didn’t match the underlying cultural groups.
Re: An open letter calling for a hard fork of Rails to remove DHH's influence
#6> GitHub issues are disabled on this repo to keep it on-topic and reduce argumentative discussions that go nowhere. Feel free to discuss this in all the usual places though. I get that GitHub Issues for controversial repos tends to invite trolls, but "discuss this in all the usual places" guarantees there will be no traction.
They just want to silence dissent and keep the discussion running only in their echo chambers.
Re: An open letter calling for a hard fork of Rails to remove DHH's influence
#7Ridiculous. My bet is it won't go too far.
They're already starting with the wrong incentive which is not to improve the thing but to spite someone.
Re: An open letter calling for a hard fork of Rails to remove DHH's influence
#8These people sound like they teleported straight out of a sociology classroom from 2017 or 2020 and didn’t catch what year it is. This whole puritanical bully culture is completely dead. Get out of your echochambers, and read the room already.
If you think rails is worth forking, fork it.
If you think it shouldn’t be used, don’t use it.
If you can’t be around a diversity of viewpoints, especially opinions that offend you, then get out of the kitchen.
It’s so typical of these people to wish everyone else to build the future they believe they deserve.
Do the work, or go to hell.
Re: An open letter calling for a hard fork of Rails to remove DHH's influence
#9From the linked DHH writing: “There's absolutely nothing racist or xenophobic in saying that Denmark is primarily a country for the Danes, Britain primarily a united kingdom for the Brits, and Japan primarily a set of islands for the Japanese.” To clarify, who are the Brits exactly? Do the Irish, Scottish, and Welsh count, and who gets to say that? Also, the Ainu were there before the Japanese.
Yeah, I do think there are some interesting questions in this area, but the idea that a country is primarily a country for X is hugely problematic and racist in many parts of the world, and has led to countless civil wars. The most obvious one being “Israel is primarily a country for Israelis.” But one of the legacies of colonialism is the Middle East and Africa being carved up in lines that didn’t match the underlyi…
How is it racist? Native Brits are anyone who was born there. This is more about culture than race.
Re: An open letter calling for a hard fork of Rails to remove DHH's influence
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I do think there are some interesting questions in this area, but the idea that a country is primarily a country for X is hugely problematic and racist in many parts of the world, and has led to countless civil wars. The most obvious one being “Israel is primarily a country for Israelis.” But one of the legacies of colonialism is the Middle East and Africa being carved up in lines that didn’t match the underlyi…
How is it racist? Native Brits are anyone who was born there. This is more about culture than race.
DHH makes it about race?
>That was then. Now, I wouldn't dream of it. London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000s. Chiefly because it's no longer full of native Brits. In 2000, more than sixty percent of the city were native Brits. By 2024, that had dropped to about a third. A statistic as evident as day when you walk the streets of London now.
Unambiguously referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London, 2001 census 60% of London was white British, 36% in 2021.