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Four Fallacies of Modern AI

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#3

> a fully self-driving car remains stubbornly just over the horizon Someone should let Waymo, Zoox, Pony.ai, Apollo Go, and even Tesla know!

They know. There’s a big difference being able to navigate the 80% of everyday driving situations and doing the 20% most people manage just fine but cars struggle with. There’s a road in these parts: narrow, twisty in three dimensions, unmarked, trees close to the road. Gets jolly slippery in the winter. I can drive that road in the middle of the night in sleet. Can an autonomous car?

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> a fully self-driving car remains stubbornly just over the horizon Someone should let Waymo, Zoox, Pony.ai, Apollo Go, and even Tesla know!

Someone should let the rest of this pack know. Waymo is in a different league.

I honestly didnt understand the arguments. Could someone TLDR please ?

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> a fully self-driving car remains stubbornly just over the horizon Someone should let Waymo, Zoox, Pony.ai, Apollo Go, and even Tesla know!

Part of the points of fallacies one and four is that a human can get out of the car and walk into work as a CPA or whatever, while even the autonomous-ish offerings of Waymo et al don’t necessarily advance the ball on other domains

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I've always had the feeling that AI researchers want to build their own human without having to change diapers being part of the process. Just skip to adulthood please, and learn to drive a car without having experience in bumping into things and hurting yourself.

> Language doesn't just describe reality; it creates it.

I wonder if this is a statement from the discussed paper or from the blog author. Haven't found the original paper yet, but this blog post very much makes me want to read it.

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post #3

> a fully self-driving car remains stubbornly just over the horizon Someone should let Waymo, Zoox, Pony.ai, Apollo Go, and even Tesla know!

They know. There’s a big difference being able to navigate the 80% of everyday driving situations and doing the 20% most people manage just fine but cars struggle with. There’s a road in these parts: narrow, twisty in three dimensions, unmarked, trees close to the road. Gets jolly slippery in the winter. I can drive that road in the middle of the night in sleet. Can an autonomous car?

i think it can figure it out.

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post #9

Finally an insightful article about ai

It was, but it punted in the conclusion...

> Mitchell in her paper compares modern AI to alchemy. It produces dazzling, impressive results but it often lacks a deep, foundational theory of intelligence.

> It’s a powerful metaphor, but I think a more pragmatic conclusion is slightly different. The challenge isn't to abandon our powerful alchemy in search of a pure science of intelligence.

But alchemy was wrong and chasing after the illusions created by the frauds who promoted alchemy held back the advancement of science for a long time.

We absolutely should have abandoned alchemy as soon as we saw that it didn't work, and moved to figuring out the science of what worked.

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