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Grok 2.5 is now open source. Grok 3 will be open source in about 6 months

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Re: Grok 2.5 is now open source. Grok 3 will be open source in about 6 months

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I assume this is open weights rather than open source? Non Twitter link: https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1959379349322313920

Yeah, open weights but with tons of limitations in the license. https://huggingface.co/xai-org/grok-2/blob/main/LICENSE

Re: Grok 2.5 is now open source. Grok 3 will be open source in about 6 months

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Not open source as it has a non-commercial restrictions, among it's other terms I didn't even bother to read.

Open weights only, open source usually entails that the training material is provided and you could replicate the weights yourself. ITT, we'll never get true e2e libre models without serious legislative overhaul and governance.

Re: Grok 2.5 is now open source. Grok 3 will be open source in about 6 months

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Not open source as it has a non-commercial restrictions, among it's other terms I didn't even bother to read.

Yes, it's just open weights however they do allow commercial use but with stipulations to do no harm, follow the law and not circumvent the guardrails in place. I would worry more about the revokable nature of it more than anything for commercial use.

Re: Grok 2.5 is now open source. Grok 3 will be open source in about 6 months

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On one hand it’s an old, obsolete model.

On the other none of the big-name US labs released their old models, even when obsolete, like gpt 3.5 or claude pre-3.5. All we got are some unusable safetyslop like openai OSS that was worse than existing comparable chinese models on the day they released. Google’s gemma was slightly better, but also hardly exciting.

So… go Elon? It’s not much but it’s something, and who knows, maybe it’ll somehow percolate into other companies to release something that is actually good.

The license is pretty hostile, though.

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