Family Farm Wins Historic Case After Feds Violate Constitution and Ruin Business
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#2This kafkaesque nightmare is the same dysfunction you see in large corporations.
It happens for the same reason: when organizations get too large, the people running different parts stop communicating effectively, and no one feels directly accountable. But there’s also a reason some companies grow so large in the first place. Scale brings benefits: standardized systems, the ability to hire specialists for every niche role, resources to build infrastructure, etc. These advantages can outweigh the downsides of size for a while.
The difference is that companies hit a natural ceiling. Once the inefficiencies of size outweigh the benefits, they stop being competitive. Smaller firms hold their ground against them. Governments don’t have that check. There’s no competition forcing them to stay efficient, so they can grow far beyond their optimal size and never correct. Our best hope is what happened here: the courts striking down these government overreaches as unconstitutional.
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#3Ending Chevron deference turns out to have been right. These fiefdoms are unacceptable. And correcting should be more important than punishment.
Imagine if OSHA decided to find out about dangerous conditions, allow someone to die, and then punish for that instead of fixing.
Unacceptable.
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#4The modern day star chamber.
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#5As an American, I was fascinated to see an interview with an older Italian farm owner. She employed Sikhs in eastern Italy for farm labor. In the Italian language interview she explained like she was talking to a close friend, how actually the Sikhs eat their children back home, due to starvation... as if she was sharing a secret! (hint- this is wildly false and outrageous to say it)
In other words, I do not believe for one second that this farming operation was anything other than a sweatshop, with dangerous conditions and stolen pay. The look on the face of the farmer in the article adds no confidence that this is not the case. For those reading that do not believe that people work in these conditions, in the USA in 2025, then I suggest you do some homework.
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#6That sounds absolutely terrible and stressful. And it dragged on for nine years? Imagine trying to make it as a farm, barely hanging on, only to have self important bureaucrats count styles harassing you and causing you to lose money and health for a decade! There needs to be more consequences for those involved
Re: Family Farm Wins Historic Case After Feds Violate Constitution and Ruin Business
#7As an American, I was fascinated to see an interview with an older Italian farm owner. She employed Sikhs in eastern Italy for farm labor. In the Italian language interview she explained like she was talking to a close friend, how actually the Sikhs eat their children back home, due to starvation... as if she was sharing a secret! (hint- this is wildly false and outrageous to say it) In other words, I do not believe…
You should consider trusting the legal system and the rights of the accused, rather than knowing nothing about a case and trusting the federal bureaucracy on nothing other vibes and gut feelings.
Re: Family Farm Wins Historic Case After Feds Violate Constitution and Ruin Business
#8Ending Chevron deference turns out to have been right. These fiefdoms are unacceptable. And correcting should be more important than punishment. Imagine if OSHA decided to find out about dangerous conditions, allow someone to die, and then punish for that instead of fixing. Unacceptable.
Don't worry, the same party being the "judge, jury and executioner" is now rapidly becoming the norm across everything, no longer just limited to agency fiefdoms. Have fun!
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#9Kind of weird framing as "historic" and "violated the Constitution" when the actual decision from the court just says,
"Following the Supreme Court’s recent decision in SEC v. Jarkesy, 603 U.S. 109 (2024), we hold that Sun Valley was entitled to have its case decided by an Article III court."
Usually it is a non-story when lower courts start following a brand new Supreme Court precedent. Not sure why this one is on HN or why even really why it warranted 10,000 words in the original link.
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#10This kafkaesque nightmare is the same dysfunction you see in large corporations. It happens for the same reason: when organizations get too large, the people running different parts stop communicating effectively, and no one feels directly accountable. But there’s also a reason some companies grow so large in the first place. Scale brings benefits: standardized systems, the ability to hire specialists for every niche…
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