Why I'm all-in on Zen Browser

I want to like Zen but remember this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43443494

Is it safe enough now?

Also, anyone have an update on Ladybird? Looks like its dev is still going strong, but I haven’t been watching it carefully.

everytime i go all in a browser, including when i went all in on zen, eventually i go back to regular chrome. every single time

Brave is faster and the features are similar

I tried Zen for a while (1-2 months). It certainly has some cool features. But in the end, I returned to Vanilla FF and installed Sideberry [0] with custom userChrome.css [1]. It gets me 99% of what I used with Zen (tree tabs, workspaces), but without annoyances/anti-features (inconvenient url bar for editing, frequent UI changes, cute animations that ignore prefer-reduced-motion, performance, security worries etc.).

I’m relatively happy with my setup [2] now, what I miss most from Zen would be the 2-level pinned tabs (pinned per workspace, and globally pinned), and the design of globals pins (instead of a line on the side as in [2], it’s a grid at the top for Zen), but not even close to enough that I’d want to return.

[0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/

[1]: https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery/wiki/Firefox-Styles-Snipp...

[2]: https://i.imgur.com/v9a6VRw.png

Brave however is riddled with Crypto and AI crap. It doesn't have any useable support for multiple profiles, too: last time I tried it, it would end up showing various errors on every startup and you couldn't have two profiles in the same window.