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Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by Manuel_D »

Courts have previously held that heuristics based determinations are not sufficient to serve as probable cause. E.g. "predictive policing" technologies can be used for e.g. scheduling officers to different areas, but aren't valid to conduct a search.

If this feature is used to make an arrest, there's a good chance the case would be thrown out.

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by ringeryless »

Manuel_D wrote: post #5

Courts have previously held that heuristics based determinations are not sufficient to serve as probable cause. E.g. "predictive policing" technologies can be used for e.g. scheduling officers to different areas, but aren't valid to conduct a search. If this feature is used to make an arrest, there's a good chance the case would be thrown out.

I'm not sure such cases would be thrown out. See "parallel construction" for examples of illegally obtained data the DEA was advised to build an evidence chain NOT based on the illegally obtained info, but based upon evidence gleaned after the fact but built to show discovery during the course of investigation.

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by garbagewoman »

Manuel_D wrote: post #5

Courts have previously held that heuristics based determinations are not sufficient to serve as probable cause. E.g. "predictive policing" technologies can be used for e.g. scheduling officers to different areas, but aren't valid to conduct a search. If this feature is used to make an arrest, there's a good chance the case would be thrown out.

Why would the police even inform you that flock was used?

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by genocidicbunny »

Manuel_D wrote: post #5

Courts have previously held that heuristics based determinations are not sufficient to serve as probable cause. E.g. "predictive policing" technologies can be used for e.g. scheduling officers to different areas, but aren't valid to conduct a search. If this feature is used to make an arrest, there's a good chance the case would be thrown out.

The case can be thrown out, but it's still going to cause you massive disruptions. Everything from just being arrested in the first place and being held in custody for some amount of time, to having to hire a lawyer, to the social consequences of your name being tied to being arrested. It's going to cost you time, money, stress, family and social relationships. And there's a non-zero chance that if your life starts being investigated after such an arrest, something could be found to still affect you or your family and friends.

And once you're on their radar, you're probably going to also end up being marked for extra scrutiny. You might find yourself being pulled over more often, or getting the SSSS on your airplane boarding pass.

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

chung8123 wrote: post #2

Are there IR lights you can put on your license plate to block cameras from taking pictures of it?

There are passive ways too on AliExpress like IR reflective sprays, coatings and films, but in my country, and I suspect in most of Europe, any intentional tampering with the legibility of your license plate is illegal and can land you hefty fines or even jail if caught.
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