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Matrix Is Not Safe for EU Data Privacy?

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Re: Matrix Is Not Safe for EU Data Privacy?

#2
I can't really evaluate some of their claims, but note that this is published by a company (written by a "Tech Marketer" who works there) that has a vested interest in making its product look better than the competition. The overly-alarmist language they use makes me extra skeptical.

Re: Matrix Is Not Safe for EU Data Privacy?

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The only safe communication is decentralized communication, capable of multiplexing multiple techniques (IP, BLE, LoRa, etc.) under the hood of cryptographically safe routing and messaging algorithms that work over unreliable links.

Maybe even with small-range offline radio mailboxes so you can deliver and gather messages from/to highly suppressed people which then can be send back into the "online" network automatically without further interaction.

Re: Matrix Is Not Safe for EU Data Privacy?

#8

Matrix may not be safe but is Wire going to be safe from Chat Control? Most likely no. So I don't see how trading one surveillance state for another will help.

When you're a EU company or a EU government it makes a difference if your supplier is subject to EU surveillance laws or UK surveillance laws.

As far as I can tell it comes down to:

- are you afraid of foreign espionage

vs.

- are you afraid of your own government

Re: Matrix Is Not Safe for EU Data Privacy?

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The only safe communication is decentralized communication, capable of multiplexing multiple techniques (IP, BLE, LoRa, etc.) under the hood of cryptographically safe routing and messaging algorithms that work over unreliable links. Maybe even with small-range offline radio mailboxes so you can deliver and gather messages from/to highly suppressed people which then can be send back into the "online" network automatic…

or true E2E encryption

Re: Matrix Is Not Safe for EU Data Privacy?

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post #9

The only safe communication is decentralized communication, capable of multiplexing multiple techniques (IP, BLE, LoRa, etc.) under the hood of cryptographically safe routing and messaging algorithms that work over unreliable links. Maybe even with small-range offline radio mailboxes so you can deliver and gather messages from/to highly suppressed people which then can be send back into the "online" network automatic…

or true E2E encryption

DPI firewalled states like China show that they are extremely effective in adapting to new protocols.

Having a second diverse link that is cheap to setup would be an alternative.

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