Working with the UK Government to Protect Children Online
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Re: Working with the UK Government to Protect Children Online
#2Bluesky will block adult content and DMs for age-unverified users in the UK until they verify themselves using Epic's "Kids Web Services" system.
Re: Working with the UK Government to Protect Children Online
#3Statements like this one by bluesky:
> Working with the UK Government to Protect Children Online
Make me think of one word:
Collaborators
The company is happy to strip people from their privacy, for the sake of children, terrorists, or whatever other excuse governments use to justify their excessive intrusion into people's lives.
Re: Working with the UK Government to Protect Children Online
#4Privacy is very important to me. And having to verify your age/identity in anyway online seems very risky, open to abuse, blackmail etc. The privacy conscious can work-around the verification or decide not to access restricted websites anymore.
It's hard to deny the negative impact that unfettered access to inappropriate material has had on the younger generations. Some sort of verification seems like a net-positive for society.
The problem is that bypassing it whether via VPN's or accessing sites that don't comply will be so easy that the whole thing will be ineffective to a large degree. But maybe a little effectiveness is enough. If it helps prevent very young kids from accidentally stumbling upon inappropriate content maybe that will have a meaningful impact.
Re: Working with the UK Government to Protect Children Online
#5This is a good way to test if a service is actually federated: Does this affect people using other servers? If people using other servers can communicate with each other and not care what policies the central bsky server sets, then it's actually federated.
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#6Privacy is very important to me. And having to verify your age/identity in anyway online seems very risky, open to abuse, blackmail etc. The privacy conscious can work-around the verification or decide not to access restricted websites anymore. It's hard to deny the negative impact that unfettered access to inappropriate material has had on the younger generations. Some sort of verification seems like a net-positive…
I also strongly value privacy and honestly this kind of scheme always rubs me wrong. In the physical world, we have IDs, provided by the government, a business is only required to do a brief check and often does not have to retain information. This means that you can retain a fair bit of privacy for the individual, and the burden on the business is fairly low. And yet, for some reason, online we get the worst of both worlds: businesses have to figure out how implement cumbersome verification measures (which means small businesses/ hobbyists will struggle to comply) AND there is basically no privacy. How did we get there?
Re: Working with the UK Government to Protect Children Online
#7Privacy is very important to me. And having to verify your age/identity in anyway online seems very risky, open to abuse, blackmail etc. The privacy conscious can work-around the verification or decide not to access restricted websites anymore. It's hard to deny the negative impact that unfettered access to inappropriate material has had on the younger generations. Some sort of verification seems like a net-positive…
I also strongly value privacy and honestly this kind of scheme always rubs me wrong. In the physical world, we have IDs, provided by the government, a business is only required to do a brief check and often does not have to retain information. This means that you can retain a fair bit of privacy for the individual, and the burden on the business is fairly low. And yet, for some reason, online we get the worst of both…
Yeah this particular system doesn't sound great. It seems like Epic are storing the fact you're verified and your email. I've definitely seen systems where they verify you and immediately delete the data.
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#8I think the important question here is: once they've got your face or ID, do they store it? Is this effectively forbidding pseudonymity?
It's worth thinking twice about this in a country that is actively censoring mainstream political speech in its media.
Re: Working with the UK Government to Protect Children Online
#9Here's what you want to know:
https://dev.epicgames.com/docs/kids-web-services/pv-service/...
> Parents in all regions except the USA and the Republic of Korea can verify their age using face scan. KWS prompts the parent to hold their device in front of their face. A machine-learning algorithm estimates the parent’s age using the device’s camera.
> Face scan verification is provided by Yoti (yoti.com).
They have an app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yoti.mobil...
I installed it but there's no direct interface - it needs to be opened via some intent and I can't be bothered to figure that out.
I would put a lot of money on it not being able to detect you pointing your phone at a Veo3 video of an old person though. Maybe on iPhones where you reliably have a depth camera? Doubtful on Android though.
It only takes one smart kid to beat this, and there are plenty of those.
Re: Working with the UK Government to Protect Children Online
#10Privacy is very important to me. And having to verify your age/identity in anyway online seems very risky, open to abuse, blackmail etc. The privacy conscious can work-around the verification or decide not to access restricted websites anymore. It's hard to deny the negative impact that unfettered access to inappropriate material has had on the younger generations. Some sort of verification seems like a net-positive…
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