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Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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This could get dicey. I know there are a lot of users out there and I understand the various causes for use. However, for those of us who didn't because of concerns like this, it is a bit vindicating. Addiction is a disease, full sympathy, but please get help if you need it.

Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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> Although the authors will not share the data directly, any interested researcher may apply the search strategy developed for this analysis, available in the online supplemental appendix.

Yeah, that’s a bit of a red flag. A better study would of course open up the data, so validation would be easier.

But a better study would also have figured out whether the effects are correlated with specific strains of cannabis, perhaps even specific cannabinoids. There is no guarantee that it is specifically THC causing these effects, it could very well be CBG (cannabigerol) or just the inhalation of smoke itself: inhaled particular matter from combustion has been shown to cause cardiovascular issues, among other things.

Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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post #2

This could get dicey. I know there are a lot of users out there and I understand the various causes for use. However, for those of us who didn't because of concerns like this, it is a bit vindicating. Addiction is a disease, full sympathy, but please get help if you need it.

Are all cannabis users addicts?

Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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post #2

This could get dicey. I know there are a lot of users out there and I understand the various causes for use. However, for those of us who didn't because of concerns like this, it is a bit vindicating. Addiction is a disease, full sympathy, but please get help if you need it.

Some of us are smoking for the past 20, 30, 40 years without cardiovascular issues tho. And I have met many old guys and ladies smoking weed in their 60, 70s doing fine if not better than their peers.

Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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post #2

This could get dicey. I know there are a lot of users out there and I understand the various causes for use. However, for those of us who didn't because of concerns like this, it is a bit vindicating. Addiction is a disease, full sympathy, but please get help if you need it.

Are all cannabis users addicts?

I don't think so, I smoke for the past 20 years and I'm not addicted /s

Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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post #2

This could get dicey. I know there are a lot of users out there and I understand the various causes for use. However, for those of us who didn't because of concerns like this, it is a bit vindicating. Addiction is a disease, full sympathy, but please get help if you need it.

Are all cannabis users addicts?

According to a lot of people online? Yes, and they're the same type who will tell you an occasional glass of wine with a meal makes you an alcoholic.

Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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> Although the authors will not share the data directly, any interested researcher may apply the search strategy developed for this analysis, available in the online supplemental appendix.

Yeah, that’s a bit of a red flag. A better study would of course open up the data, so validation would be easier. But a better study would also have figured out whether the effects are correlated with specific strains of cannabis, perhaps even specific cannabinoids. There is no guarantee that it is specifically THC causing these effects, it could very well be CBG (cannabigerol) or just the inhalation of smoke itself:…

I’m more inclined to believe the physical stress of coughing my ass off on a bad hit would wreck my heart over time than the THC itself, times thousands and thousands of coughs…
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