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Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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If you're like me and want to actually compare the listed devices and patents...

  Design patent '305: Icon interface and grid layout
  Design patent '677: iPhone design, edge-to-edge glass and display borders, front speaker
  Utility patent '163: Tapping to zoom
  Utility patent '381: "Rubber-band effect," bouncing back when scrolling to end of a page
  Utility patent '915: "Pinch-to-zoom," distinguishing between single-touch and multitouch gestures
1. Galaxy S 4G (all): http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-T959HABTMB

2. Galaxy S2 AT&T (677; all utility): http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I777ZKAATT

3. Galaxy S2 Skyrocket (677): http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I727MSAATT

4. Galaxy S2 T-Mobile (677; 915, 163): http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-T989ZKBTMB

5. Galaxy S2 Epic 4G (677): http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SPH-D710ZKASPR

6. Galaxy Showcase (677, 305): http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I500RKBXAR

7. Droid Charge (305; all utility): http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I510RAAVZW

8. Galaxy Prevail (all utility): http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SPH-M820ZKABST

Regardless of my feelings on the lunacy in these being patents, a few takeaways from myself. Only the design patents are featured when selling a phone, by Samsung or Apple, and I'd argue the utility patents are not a selling point, even for those that try a phone before purchasing. If these features are offensive enough to outright ban and garnish earnings from, why aren't they, at all, a part of the buying process? Try it out; search for "zoom" on any of Apple's or Samsung's product pages. Someone help me out and find who has a patent on having a CD player in a car.

As well, Samsung has been painted as stealing wholesale, but why are they so inconsistent in stealing the farm for every phone? And the S3, which is an even better seller?

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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If you're like me and want to actually compare the listed devices and patents... Design patent '305: Icon interface and grid layout Design patent '677: iPhone design, edge-to-edge glass and display borders, front speaker Utility patent '163: Tapping to zoom Utility patent '381: "Rubber-band effect," bouncing back when scrolling to end of a page Utility patent '915: "Pinch-to-zoom," distinguishing between single-touch…

"Design patent '305: Icon interface and grid layout

Design patent '677: iPhone design, edge-to-edge glass and display borders, front speaker"

Some part of me just wants to scream.

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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If you're like me and want to actually compare the listed devices and patents... Design patent '305: Icon interface and grid layout Design patent '677: iPhone design, edge-to-edge glass and display borders, front speaker Utility patent '163: Tapping to zoom Utility patent '381: "Rubber-band effect," bouncing back when scrolling to end of a page Utility patent '915: "Pinch-to-zoom," distinguishing between single-touch…

"Design patent '305: Icon interface and grid layout Design patent '677: iPhone design, edge-to-edge glass and display borders, front speaker" Some part of me just wants to scream.

Please keep in mind the difference between the title of a patent, and the claims of a patent. The title is inconsequential (and in fact, there's some incentive to make it as unhelpful as possible). The claims are the important part of a patent.

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Design patent '305: Icon interface and grid layout Design patent '677: iPhone design, edge-to-edge glass and display borders, front speaker" Some part of me just wants to scream.

Please keep in mind the difference between the title of a patent, and the claims of a patent. The title is inconsequential (and in fact, there's some incentive to make it as unhelpful as possible). The claims are the important part of a patent.

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Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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The fact that the verdict is based on trivial patents is actually a good thing. Samsung can redesign the phone case and do trivial software changes and come up with 8 brand new phones officially declared to be comparable to the iphone.

Am I the only one who thinks rounded edges are so 1950s ?

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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If you're like me and want to actually compare the listed devices and patents... Design patent '305: Icon interface and grid layout Design patent '677: iPhone design, edge-to-edge glass and display borders, front speaker Utility patent '163: Tapping to zoom Utility patent '381: "Rubber-band effect," bouncing back when scrolling to end of a page Utility patent '915: "Pinch-to-zoom," distinguishing between single-touch…

I get the impression that Samsumg went through three phases in their response to the iPhone.

2007-2008: We need something like this iPhone thing. Let's use Android.

2009-2010: Hmm, Android isn't selling well enough. Let's make our phones look exactly like the iPhone. This is where the S and S2 came from.

2011 onward: Oh shit, Apple is suing us. Let's not be so obvious. Hence the S3.

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