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Amazon Tells Employees to Relocate or Resign

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Re: Amazon Tells Employees to Relocate or Resign

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Why do these companies keep trying to fire remote employees? Is it so hard to let them keep working from home? Is the company's real estate portfolio that important? You could probably even pay remote workers less (or give non-remote employees a "bonus" for coming in) and everyone would still be happy.

Re: Amazon Tells Employees to Relocate or Resign

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The following is not legal advice, it's just my opinion. DYOR, check with a lawyer, etc.

"Do you want to relocate or resign?" is a false dichotomy. You can always just refuse to answer (possibly with soft words like ""I'm not sure" or "I haven't decided yet") -- keep doing your job, and wait until the company lets you go.

I'm pretty sure, if a company moves its operations and your job no longer exists in the same location, you're entitled to unemployment benefits -- but not if you resign.

The "Relocate or resign" phrasing seems to be trying to trick the affected employees into giving up their rights to unemployment benefits.

Re: Amazon Tells Employees to Relocate or Resign

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At this point long commutes just seem a waste of time (and I know a number of people in the Seattle area who are forced into long commutes by Amazon only to do most remote meetings once they arrive).

Sometimes I do think the ideal job would be a medium-sized company with an office within walking distance of everyone's home. When everyone in the office is aligned on the same thing it's really great to be in-person. I don't think this holds for a giant organization like Amazon.

Re: Amazon Tells Employees to Relocate or Resign

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post #5

The following is not legal advice, it's just my opinion. DYOR, check with a lawyer, etc. "Do you want to relocate or resign?" is a false dichotomy. You can always just refuse to answer (possibly with soft words like ""I'm not sure" or "I haven't decided yet") -- keep doing your job, and wait until the company lets you go. I'm pretty sure, if a company moves its operations and your job no longer exists in the same loc…

Indeed, talk to an employment attorney to maximize your outcome. You gain nothing by resigning, it’s a ploy to absolve them of any separation cost or potential legal claims (constructive dismissal, refusal to provide ADA accommodations, etc).

Re: Amazon Tells Employees to Relocate or Resign

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post #3

What's the difference between resign and layoff :)

Resign is employee initiated, being laid off, or layoff, is company initiated. Not sure about other states, but in Illinois if you resign, most likely you won't qualify for unemployment benefits. If you're laid off (as I've been multiple times), you can qualify for unemployment benefits. I'm basing this on my experience, but you should consult an attorney before signing anything if you're being fired/laid off/let go, etc.

Re: Amazon Tells Employees to Relocate or Resign

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post #5

The following is not legal advice, it's just my opinion. DYOR, check with a lawyer, etc. "Do you want to relocate or resign?" is a false dichotomy. You can always just refuse to answer (possibly with soft words like ""I'm not sure" or "I haven't decided yet") -- keep doing your job, and wait until the company lets you go. I'm pretty sure, if a company moves its operations and your job no longer exists in the same loc…

Usually if the worksite moves more than some distance, usually +/- 50 miles, you can claim UI if you don't relocate.
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