Long live Xorg, I mean Xlibre
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Long live Xorg, I mean Xlibre
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Re: Long live Xorg, I mean Xlibre
#2I've tried to switch a few times, and keep going back to X. It seems like simple stuff - the big one is that I like to remote into my system and look at the screen, and with wayland, there's no way to look at the side monitor like I can with X11 and x11vnc.
Re: Long live Xorg, I mean Xlibre
#3> What I don't like is ANY, I repeat ANY software solution that champions mediocrity.
Then it should be proven that proposed alternative to Wayland is not mediocre or worse in issues Wayland is solving. Overall the post looks very shortsighted in looking at these issues from very narrow perspective, seemingly not realizing problems that need solving are much wider and not limited to one use case.
Wayland surely is not perfect and needs development (which lately seems to be moving at better pace), but I'm not convinced at all proposed alternative is better.
Re: Long live Xorg, I mean Xlibre
#4> What I don't like is ANY, I repeat ANY software solution that champions mediocrity. Then it should be proven that proposed alternative to Wayland is not mediocre or worse in issues Wayland is solving. Overall the post looks very shortsighted in looking at these issues from very narrow perspective, seemingly not realizing problems that need solving are much wider and not limited to one use case. Wayland surely is no…
> very narrow perspective, seemingly not realizing problems are much wider and not limited to one use case
Ironically, this is the complaint many of us have about the development of Wayland.
Re: Long live Xorg, I mean Xlibre
#5I agree completely with this post. It’s the eternal issue in the GNU\Linux side, reinvent the wheel instead of enhance the existing, and submit half backed solutions and claim it’s the full replacement to the previous solutions
Re: Long live Xorg, I mean Xlibre
#6> What I don't like is ANY, I repeat ANY software solution that champions mediocrity. Then it should be proven that proposed alternative to Wayland is not mediocre or worse in issues Wayland is solving. Overall the post looks very shortsighted in looking at these issues from very narrow perspective, seemingly not realizing problems that need solving are much wider and not limited to one use case. Wayland surely is no…
I mean, I’m a Windows user so I have no dog in this fight, but it seems like the principal implants are that it’s slower, less responsive and less stable than the alternative. This seems like a primary use case. I’m not sure what the wider use cases you’re thinking of that justify the switch.
Re: Long live Xorg, I mean Xlibre
#7I agree with the sentiment of this post in general (annoyance with Wayland being shoved down my throat, despite missing core features of Xorg) but I am rather concerned about Xlibre's future as a project. The README being stuffed with reactionary political dogwhistles is downright weird and doesn't inspire confidence in longevity.
Re: Long live Xorg, I mean Xlibre
#8I agree with the sentiment of this post in general (annoyance with Wayland being shoved down my throat, despite missing core features of Xorg) but I am rather concerned about Xlibre's future as a project. The README being stuffed with reactionary political dogwhistles is downright weird and doesn't inspire confidence in longevity.
The main author is the person in Linus yells at here: https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/11/linus_torvalds_vaccin...
Re: Long live Xorg, I mean Xlibre
#9I use Linux Mint, Mate.
I occasionally write native GUI apps (not electron-based), and for the current automation application I am working on Wayland is an absolute non-starter[1].
Like the other poster, every few years I would give Wayland a try, but as of today, 17-June-2025, Wayland is still lacking features that I want.
I have no objection to using it, I just need it to be a replacement for X.
[1] My application uses X11 FakeEvent. Did not find a similar thing for Wayland.
Re: Long live Xorg, I mean Xlibre
#10I agree with the sentiment of this post in general (annoyance with Wayland being shoved down my throat, despite missing core features of Xorg) but I am rather concerned about Xlibre's future as a project. The README being stuffed with reactionary political dogwhistles is downright weird and doesn't inspire confidence in longevity.
The README: https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/blob/master/README.md
The code of conduct: https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/blob/master/CODE_OF_COND...