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TeleMessage Explorer: a new open source research tool

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Re: TeleMessage Explorer: a new open source research tool

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It’s truly wild that something like this exists. It really speaks to the unfathomable levels of incompetence that this is what the Trump administration was using to plan military operations over.

And we all drop our jaws, wonder what is happening, and then wake up to a slurry of new stories.

Re: TeleMessage Explorer: a new open source research tool

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I'm hoping that this will be yet another shot in the war to convice corporations and government agencies that they need to have on-prem data hosting that isn't accessible to the company running the service. I don't think you can do full E2E between individual employees in a corporate setting, but at the very least if all of the organization's data is only accessible to the organization, that'll help with a lot of these third-party data beaches.

(it won't help when the organization is beached, which unfortunately still seems to be the main way that user data gets leaked)

Ultimately, though, until there starts to be federal law mandating chain of custody for user data and harsh penalties on it being leaked, I think that this will continue for a long time...

Update: I should have read the article - did not realize TeleMessage was supposed to be E2E. I guess now the lesson is that you shouldn't be using normal devices for national security information (classified or not), and otherwise it's still not good to use a sketchy service that doesn't have Moxie-grade crypto implementations.

Re: TeleMessage Explorer: a new open source research tool

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It's a data leak that was posted publicly online. Yes DDoSSecrets restricts access to verified journalists and security researchers but if you don't fall under that criteria you can always just get it the old fashioned way by digging around for torrents of data leaks like everyone else has done since forever.

Re: TeleMessage Explorer: a new open source research tool

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I'm hoping that this will be yet another shot in the war to convice corporations and government agencies that they need to have on-prem data hosting that isn't accessible to the company running the service. I don't think you can do full E2E between individual employees in a corporate setting, but at the very least if all of the organization's data is only accessible to the organization, that'll help with a lot of the…

If a company knows something about you, so does the government(s).

This is exactly the state of affairs the government prefers.

Privacy and consumer protection long died on the altar of turnkey totalitarian universal monitoring.

By having corps do the creepiest data collection, whatever all political opposition to the complete surveillance state is bypassed

Re: TeleMessage Explorer: a new open source research tool

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I'm hoping that this will be yet another shot in the war to convice corporations and government agencies that they need to have on-prem data hosting that isn't accessible to the company running the service. I don't think you can do full E2E between individual employees in a corporate setting, but at the very least if all of the organization's data is only accessible to the organization, that'll help with a lot of the…

If a company knows something about you, so does the government(s). This is exactly the state of affairs the government prefers. Privacy and consumer protection long died on the altar of turnkey totalitarian universal monitoring. By having corps do the creepiest data collection, whatever all political opposition to the complete surveillance state is bypassed

Just so long as every once in a while, they convince some junior senator to hold a hearing to throw some executive at them that will use it as a way of earning clout within the company and no one cares about the outcome. The junior senator will lament about their political opponents, the committee will pat itself on the back for doing their job, the corporate crony will report back to the board that they delivered the talking points, and it will go right back to business as usual.
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