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#2Why must crypto infect everything good?
Is the incentive even necessary? It would be worth testing if there are enough scientists who are keen to promote information sharing in their field without some minimal reward
I also wonder if this will make the penalties for uploaders more severe since it becomes a commercial act
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#3Why must crypto infect everything good? Is the incentive even necessary? It would be worth testing if there are enough scientists who are keen to promote information sharing in their field without some minimal reward I also wonder if this will make the penalties for uploaders more severe since it becomes a commercial act
It has already been tried without a reward, there are dedicated channels where you can go to request or fulfill requests (e.g. Nexus has these).
But it's a bit of an endless chore for a person to do, there are always more requests coming. It helps one person, but it doesn't really feel like efficient use of your time when it's a drop in the ocean.
I'm not thrilled with the crypto token thing, but it's good to see new things being tried. The worst that can happen is it doesn't work, there's not much to fear from this particular initiative. The worst they can do if it turns bad is... publish scientific articles.
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#4Are these papers returned back into sci-hub? I don't quite follow why it seems like there's now two different repositories of papers.
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#5Why not just use Anna's archive at this point?
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#6Are these papers returned back into sci-hub? I don't quite follow why it seems like there's now two different repositories of papers.
if i understood, it becomes part of sci hub
but i'm not sure
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#7Why must crypto infect everything good? Is the incentive even necessary? It would be worth testing if there are enough scientists who are keen to promote information sharing in their field without some minimal reward I also wonder if this will make the penalties for uploaders more severe since it becomes a commercial act
It has already been tried without a reward, there are dedicated channels where you can go to request or fulfill requests (e.g. Nexus has these). But it's a bit of an endless chore for a person to do, there are always more requests coming. It helps one person, but it doesn't really feel like efficient use of your time when it's a drop in the ocean. I'm not thrilled with the crypto token thing, but it's good to see new…
Fair enough — didn't realise it had already been tried and it wasn't working without reward. That's not mentioned in the article but does make sense.
There's still a good argument for sci-hub to stay fully non-commercial. Let's see where it goes.
It's not clear if Sci-Hub themselves stand to make any money from this. If they do, the worst that can happen is that their incentives are distorted from being a highly-regarded community resource to maximising the number of manual uploads.
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#8"On Sci-Net, you're using tokens directly to reward uploaders. Payments go to fellow researchers, not to the platform."
I understood that payments go to fellow uploaders, which could be random university students that just do this to "earn" tokens. So the money is still not flowing to researchers. Have I misunderstood?
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#9Why even use sci-hub anymore? With the lack of updates, instability over petty stuff like naming a wasp after the founder, etc. I don't see why anyone would use sci-hub over Anna's Archive.
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#10"On Sci-Net, you're using tokens directly to reward uploaders. Payments go to fellow researchers, not to the platform." I understood that payments go to fellow uploaders, which could be random university students that just do this to "earn" tokens. So the money is still not flowing to researchers. Have I misunderstood?
I think you right. But researchers can upload their own papers. Seem to require a paying requester and the researcher has to notice the request.