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Plan 9 from Bell Labs (1995)

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Re: Plan 9 from Bell Labs (1995)

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I wish it had stuck.

In a related vein, I idly wonder if there's a project around intended to bring useful security to a practical Unix derivative. Nobody uses a big timesharing box any longer (for all reasonable definitions of nobody); and the protections mooted to keep "users" away from "wheel" are basically pointless and counterproductive in a world where attacks come from outside. Apple's code-signing is one reaction to this new reality; what's the current status of capability based systems?

Re: Plan 9 from Bell Labs (1995)

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post #2

I wish it had stuck. In a related vein, I idly wonder if there's a project around intended to bring useful security to a practical Unix derivative. Nobody uses a big timesharing box any longer (for all reasonable definitions of nobody); and the protections mooted to keep "users" away from "wheel" are basically pointless and counterproductive in a world where attacks come from outside. Apple's code-signing is one reac…

ah. You don't seem understand plan 9 OR capabilities. Cool.

Re: Plan 9 from Bell Labs (1995)

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post #2

I wish it had stuck. In a related vein, I idly wonder if there's a project around intended to bring useful security to a practical Unix derivative. Nobody uses a big timesharing box any longer (for all reasonable definitions of nobody); and the protections mooted to keep "users" away from "wheel" are basically pointless and counterproductive in a world where attacks come from outside. Apple's code-signing is one reac…

You can do quite a bit in Linux with CGroups and SELinux. Projects making good use of those are Fedora, Systemd and Chromium browser.

Re: Plan 9 from Bell Labs (1995)

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Let me know when they release a decent editor for it...

As gchpaco points out, both sam and acme are pretty usable. Acme makes a good enough programming editor that I use it for all my coding at work, while I keep a tarball of the original sam port on a server for those times when I have to use a system with a crappy version of vi and no admin privileges to install something better.

Oh, and you can run Vim on Plan 9 now. But it's kind of like visiting a foreign country and eating only McDonalds.

Re: Plan 9 from Bell Labs (1995)

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post #2

I wish it had stuck. In a related vein, I idly wonder if there's a project around intended to bring useful security to a practical Unix derivative. Nobody uses a big timesharing box any longer (for all reasonable definitions of nobody); and the protections mooted to keep "users" away from "wheel" are basically pointless and counterproductive in a world where attacks come from outside. Apple's code-signing is one reac…

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/capsicum/
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