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Ex-UK Special Forces break silence on 'war crimes' by colleagues

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Re: Ex-UK Special Forces break silence on 'war crimes' by colleagues

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Post by potato3732842 »

ta1243 wrote: post #3
potato3732842 wrote: post #2

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I'm confused. This is a story about war crimes, not local councils? Are you saying your binman or librarian will shoot you?

The SAS is being sloppy with the rules because the entire candidate pool for that organization exists in a reality where it's considered tacitly ok to be sloppy with the rules when it's the "bad guys" and that's just how every big organization, every government entity acts. And so they're tasked with running an organization and they unsurprisingly wind up with the same problem.

This is a cultural problem with British culture. Just nobody notices until it's the SAS doing it and the bodies stack up

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Post by OtherShrezzing »

potato3732842 wrote: post #4
ta1243 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm confused. This is a story about war crimes, not local councils? Are you saying your binman or librarian will shoot you?

The SAS is being sloppy with the rules because the entire candidate pool for that organization exists in a reality where it's considered tacitly ok to be sloppy with the rules when it's the "bad guys" and that's just how every big organization, every government entity acts. And so they're tasked with running an organization and they unsurprisingly wind up with the same problem. This is a cultural problem with British…

I don’t think you can draw a straight line between your local councillor’s bad attitude and the special forces executing foreigners without warrant.

They’re just not comparable in any way, literal or metaphorical.

Re: Ex-UK Special Forces break silence on 'war crimes' by colleagues

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Post by dmos62 »

potato3732842 wrote: post #2

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I don't think you read the article.

> "They handcuffed a young boy and shot him," recalled one veteran who served with the SAS in Afghanistan. "He was clearly a child, not even close to fighting age."

No Western government (or whatever you meant by government system) treats anyone like that, and such behaviour should absolutely surprise everyone.

Re: Ex-UK Special Forces break silence on 'war crimes' by colleagues

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Post by potato3732842 »

OtherShrezzing wrote: post #5
potato3732842 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The SAS is being sloppy with the rules because the entire candidate pool for that organization exists in a reality where it's considered tacitly ok to be sloppy with the rules when it's the "bad guys" and that's just how every big organization, every government entity acts. And so they're tasked with running an organization and they unsurprisingly wind up with the same problem. This is a cultural problem with British…

I don’t think you can draw a straight line between your local councillor’s bad attitude and the special forces executing foreigners without warrant. They’re just not comparable in any way, literal or metaphorical.

I think I can draw a pretty straight line between a prevailing culture that's unable to root out bad behavior by its individual cogs in mundane issues, and one that's similarly unable in serious issues. The SAS with it's inability to reign in its own cogs suffers from all the same problems as any other organization.

Re: Ex-UK Special Forces break silence on 'war crimes' by colleagues

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Post by joshuaissac »

ta1243 wrote: post #3
potato3732842 wrote: post #2

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I'm confused. This is a story about war crimes, not local councils? Are you saying your binman or librarian will shoot you?

GP's claim is that rule-breaking is done by state institutions routinely and is part of the organisational culture. And that we turn a blind eye to it until there are deaths.

Re: Ex-UK Special Forces break silence on 'war crimes' by colleagues

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Post by axus »

The evidence presented by the BBC in 2020: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53597137

And apparently Australia had already released their report and investigation of their own behavior: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-55088230

But only the whistleblower and one other were tried and convicted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brereton_Report

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