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The new 4o personality is unusable for therapy

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Re: The new 4o personality is unusable for therapy

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misleading title as usual

Its not a personality, its the fanstasy called GPT-4o.

absolutely rubbish as a therapist unless it uses basic CBT concepts.

To be honest a schoolboy could teach you the A,B.C's of CBT after reading an introduction guide.

A. The activating event.

B. Your beliefs about the event.

C. Consequences, which includes your behavioral or emotional response to the event.

see, its easy

Re: The new 4o personality is unusable for therapy

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Last time I used it to work on some text is switched to some kind of roleplayish overacting. It gave me filthy waifu pillow vibes. Whatever they did to make it more “personal” gave it unresolved emotional trauma or something. Ick.

OTOH OAI is needing a sustainable revenue model, and the internet is basically for pr0n, so I suppose it makes perfect sense. Role play is probably a strong market segment.

Re: The new 4o personality is unusable for therapy

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misleading title as usual Its not a personality, its the fanstasy called GPT-4o. absolutely rubbish as a therapist unless it uses basic CBT concepts. To be honest a schoolboy could teach you the A,B.C's of CBT after reading an introduction guide. A. The activating event. B. Your beliefs about the event. C. Consequences, which includes your behavioral or emotional response to the event. see, its easy

I know the anthropomorphizing feels inaccurate to some. What is the "correct" way to describe this in one word other than "personality"? We use "respond" in programming, but a machine can't really "respond," can it? It can pass data from a server to a client. We just use shorthand for these types of actions because they are so easily analogous to the human action.

Re: The new 4o personality is unusable for therapy

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I don’t think it should be used for therapy. It’s too obsequious. Every idea you have is genius to it, none of your problems are ever your fault. It’s too easy to convince it that it’s wrong about 2+2=4, all you need is a little nudge in the right direction with a slightly leading prompt and it’ll agree with anything.

And a lot of people think it’s infallible - so if it agrees with them they must be right.

Re: The new 4o personality is unusable for therapy

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I don’t think it should be used for therapy. It’s too obsequious. Every idea you have is genius to it, none of your problems are ever your fault. It’s too easy to convince it that it’s wrong about 2+2=4, all you need is a little nudge in the right direction with a slightly leading prompt and it’ll agree with anything. And a lot of people think it’s infallible - so if it agrees with them they must be right.

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Re: The new 4o personality is unusable for therapy

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misleading title as usual Its not a personality, its the fanstasy called GPT-4o. absolutely rubbish as a therapist unless it uses basic CBT concepts. To be honest a schoolboy could teach you the A,B.C's of CBT after reading an introduction guide. A. The activating event. B. Your beliefs about the event. C. Consequences, which includes your behavioral or emotional response to the event. see, its easy

I know the anthropomorphizing feels inaccurate to some. What is the "correct" way to describe this in one word other than "personality"? We use "respond" in programming, but a machine can't really "respond," can it? It can pass data from a server to a client. We just use shorthand for these types of actions because they are so easily analogous to the human action.

I would go for "writing style" or "behavior", but would almost be okay with "personality"

Re: The new 4o personality is unusable for therapy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know the anthropomorphizing feels inaccurate to some. What is the "correct" way to describe this in one word other than "personality"? We use "respond" in programming, but a machine can't really "respond," can it? It can pass data from a server to a client. We just use shorthand for these types of actions because they are so easily analogous to the human action.

I would go for "writing style" or "behavior", but would almost be okay with "personality"

Inanimate objects are said to have personality, too. This is certainly true for clothing and decor.

Re: The new 4o personality is unusable for therapy

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I don’t think it should be used for therapy. It’s too obsequious. Every idea you have is genius to it, none of your problems are ever your fault. It’s too easy to convince it that it’s wrong about 2+2=4, all you need is a little nudge in the right direction with a slightly leading prompt and it’ll agree with anything. And a lot of people think it’s infallible - so if it agrees with them they must be right.

> And a lot of people think it’s infallible - so if it agrees with them they must be right.

A lot of people reason that way about other humans. My own father and most of the men in my family always called me intelligent when I agreed with them as a child, but any time I contradicted them with reason/evidence, they were disappointed and quickly realized that I wasn't as intelligent as they had thought.

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