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Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.

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Post by jmpeters »

It was worth putting up with the sycophancy of many of the commenters here who seem to participate only to impress PG, their would-be benefactor...for a while. It was worth it while the stories focused on the niche we are all interested in, startups. The change to more general-purpose news, the attempt to re-create the Reddit of old, seemed to be made without first asking the overall community for input (unlike the way that Craig Newmark makes all changes to Craig's List, for example). Although it has apparently been going on all along, this title-censoring thing is, for me, the final straw. Yes, Reddit has been overrun by the unwashed masses. It has become messy in the way that democracy itself is messy. But this site is getting the feeling of an artificially sterile place for tech elites as defined by PG and his minions. So I'm going back to the unwashed masses, even if it means having to read a few more titles about cat pictures. Best of luck, though, PG, and thanks for the great information this site has given me thus far. I will continue to follow your impressive career and your essays with great interest.

PS, Editors, feel free to change my title to "Hacker News Rocks!"

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#3

Post by palish »

Wait, what? Dude, a story that's submitted should be titled the same regardless of who submits the story. The only variance in titles should be mere semantics. Any extra information in the title only adds bias or spelling/grammar mistakes. Therefore, editing a title to its correct form is just fine. Relax.

But if you can't relax, goodbye. If this thread title is any indication, you produce great Reddit/Digg titles.

I hope Paul changes "title: " to "suggest a title: " on the submission page so people realize it's not their title. They didn't produce the content, and if they did then the editors aren't retitle it.

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#5

Post by nostrademons »

Thing is, Reddit really sucks now. I was just visiting it today and was amazed by the number of ignoranuses (ignoranus = someone who is both stupid and an asshole) on it.

I wonder if this is the eventual fate of all online communities. I've been through at least half a dozen now, and I've yet to see one survive as something other than trite, meaningless bullshit.

The curious thing is - in at least one case (HP fandom, and possibly the C2 wiki), I kept the friendships that I formed in it. Maybe that's the real point of online communities - form offline friendships, and keep those.

Looking forward to the Boston meetup on Sunday...

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#6

Post by aston »

palish wrote: post #3

Wait, what? Dude, a story that's submitted should be titled the same regardless of who submits the story. The only variance in titles should be mere semantics. Any extra information in the title only adds bias or spelling/grammar mistakes. Therefore, editing a title to its correct form is just fine. Relax. But if you can't relax, goodbye. If this thread title is any indication, you produce great Reddit/Digg titles. I…

I actually think this is sort of a dumb argument to get into in the first place, but you have to admit that not letting the original submitters to own their titles (when you allow them to own the resulting karma) is kind of inconsistent.

Ultimately, though, this sort of user revolt is bound to happen whenever you make major changes to how a community works. I think news.yc'll make it with or without the people who are pissed.

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#7

Post by palish »

aston wrote: post #6
palish wrote: post #3

Wait, what? Dude, a story that's submitted should be titled the same regardless of who submits the story. The only variance in titles should be mere semantics. Any extra information in the title only adds bias or spelling/grammar mistakes. Therefore, editing a title to its correct form is just fine. Relax. But if you can't relax, goodbye. If this thread title is any indication, you produce great Reddit/Digg titles. I…

I actually think this is sort of a dumb argument to get into in the first place, but you have to admit that not letting the original submitters to own their titles (when you allow them to own the resulting karma) is kind of inconsistent. Ultimately, though, this sort of user revolt is bound to happen whenever you make major changes to how a community works. I think news.yc'll make it with or without the people who ar…

".. not letting the original submitters to own their titles (when you allow them to own their resulting karma) is kind of inconsistent."

I don't see how a user owns a title to content they didn't produce. If they produced it, the editors won't change it.

You get karma for bringing quality content to other people's attention, not for calling the content something it isn't.

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#9

Post by jsnx »

motoko wrote: post #8
motoko wrote: post #4

Wow, and suddenly I realized how much it must suck to be an editor...

What's the expression? The politics are so bad because the stakes are so low?

A bikeshed (from a discussion on the FreeBSD mailing list -- see http://www.bikeshed.com/).
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